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4 of us ran this creek on Monday 9-21-09. Very nice run. Comparable in difficulty to Upper Telico. Most of it was Class 3 to Class 3 plus. There were several trees down but they were easily scoutable. Very scenic run with many waterfalls running down the side of the river. Parking area at put in, has had several cars broken into in the past. We had no problems though. Creek that this runs into was comparable to the Ocoee river with lots of big waves but not too pushy.