ACCESS TO BARBOUR'S CREEK IS NOW CLOSED! A friend and myself were getting ready to put on this past
Saturday when the land owner stopped us. He was very irritated (rude) and willing to enforce his
land owner rights. For those rolling their eyes it goes like this. We were not partying or "hanging
out". We were not littering (fact is we picked trash up) and did not have crap scattered about. We
were parked on state owned Bald Mountain Rd, not his property. We only had one vehicle there and we
were not rude at all. Once warned we left. After checking with the courthouse and the proper law
enforcement we were informed that the creek is NON-navigable. It is a King's grant issue and no one
could clearly state for sure the facts. Just clouded word of mouth from the Commonwealth
prosecuting attorney. He took my license plate number and law enforcement DID call me today just to
make sure i understood to STAY OFF. So unless someone out there is a title examiner with proof
otherwise i have been asked to pass the word on to stay off the creek. Why this happened i cant
tell you and no one knows more than i how much a loss this great little creek is. Jeff B. Edit
Always beware of strainers on this run. Look for them safely when you set shuttle. They are there
and likely always will be. I also had a close call with a rogue cable about 1/4 inch diameter that
wrapped me and my boat about 75 ft above Salty Pepper. When I spun it off I saw it was attached to
a tree river right.
2009-05-11 09:58:23 (220 days ago)
Paddled 5-10-09 @ noon. Craig Creek @ Parr= 2000 cfs and falling; Potts Creek @ 900 cfs and
falling. Water 3-4" above low water bridge, and 1" above concrete shelf under bridge at Forestry
road. Put-in at forestry road, took out at Rt. 609 Bridge. As all have said, riverwide strainers
are in there and several in spots in which wyou are commited and have few eddies to catch. Large
groups would have a hard time getting everyone into an eddie. To be safe, we portaged at least 3-4,
no limboing here. the worst strainer that comes to mind is across from the trailer with the big
rock and satellite dish in the front yard. You cannot see it from the road unless you pull off and
walk over to the bank. The lead in is blind, class 3, and few eddies. The river lieft portage up
the bank to the road is a tough climb. Talked to several locals and all were friendly. Edit
2009-05-09 06:07:34 (222 days ago)
Guage: Craig Creek was 1350 cfs at 14:00 and 2120 by 17:30 Potts Creek was 4.5 ft. at 14:00 and 5.7
by 17:30 I put on around 14:30. I didn't think it would be runnable, but when I saw the amount of
brown water flowing down John's Creek, I decided to try. I cleared the low water bridge which had
several inches on it. My first time, even though I've lived up here for 6 years - put in at 611
bridge where 617 turns right. Good up top, a little boney below. I took out at the low water bridge
0.9 miles upstream of Sand Plant Rd. (609). Parking is not widely available around here, but I had
a roving Father-in-law pick me up. You might be able to pull over on the Bald Mountain forest rd
just downstream of put-in, and I've seen cars parked on 609 - can't say if its recommended. The
game warden stopped to make sure I wasn't tresspassing, and to ensure I was using a PFD. He was
nice enough. This stream is non-stop II-III, but unless you are used to bouncing your boat over
trees, be prepared to portage several times. They come up without warning, there are lots of blind
turns, and you have to make your own eddies; but I encountered no landowners, and there were no
man-made hazards. Keep in mind that landowners in this county, while often very nice, are
frequently uptight about tresspassing. Edit
Gauge update: Looking back I see the gauges changed some as I was headed to the river. For my
earlier post figure Craig at Parr to be 1,200 cfs and rising slightly, John's Creek to be 475 cfs
and cresting, nearby but different watershed Pott's Creek to be 650 cfs and cresting.
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Saturday when the land owner stopped us. He was very irritated (rude) and willing to enforce his
land owner rights. For those rolling their eyes it goes like this. We were not partying or "hanging
out". We were not littering (fact is we picked trash up) and did not have crap scattered about. We
were parked on state owned Bald Mountain Rd, not his property. We only had one vehicle there and we
were not rude at all. Once warned we left. After checking with the courthouse and the proper law
enforcement we were informed that the creek is NON-navigable. It is a King's grant issue and no one
could clearly state for sure the facts. Just clouded word of mouth from the Commonwealth
prosecuting attorney. He took my license plate number and law enforcement DID call me today just to
make sure i understood to STAY OFF. So unless someone out there is a title examiner with proof
otherwise i have been asked to pass the word on to stay off the creek. Why this happened i cant
tell you and no one knows more than i how much a loss this great little creek is. Jeff B. Edit
and likely always will be. I also had a close call with a rogue cable about 1/4 inch diameter that
wrapped me and my boat about 75 ft above Salty Pepper. When I spun it off I saw it was attached to
a tree river right.
falling. Water 3-4" above low water bridge, and 1" above concrete shelf under bridge at Forestry
road. Put-in at forestry road, took out at Rt. 609 Bridge. As all have said, riverwide strainers
are in there and several in spots in which wyou are commited and have few eddies to catch. Large
groups would have a hard time getting everyone into an eddie. To be safe, we portaged at least 3-4,
no limboing here. the worst strainer that comes to mind is across from the trailer with the big
rock and satellite dish in the front yard. You cannot see it from the road unless you pull off and
walk over to the bank. The lead in is blind, class 3, and few eddies. The river lieft portage up
the bank to the road is a tough climb. Talked to several locals and all were friendly. Edit
by 17:30 I put on around 14:30. I didn't think it would be runnable, but when I saw the amount of
brown water flowing down John's Creek, I decided to try. I cleared the low water bridge which had
several inches on it. My first time, even though I've lived up here for 6 years - put in at 611
bridge where 617 turns right. Good up top, a little boney below. I took out at the low water bridge
0.9 miles upstream of Sand Plant Rd. (609). Parking is not widely available around here, but I had
a roving Father-in-law pick me up. You might be able to pull over on the Bald Mountain forest rd
just downstream of put-in, and I've seen cars parked on 609 - can't say if its recommended. The
game warden stopped to make sure I wasn't tresspassing, and to ensure I was using a PFD. He was
nice enough. This stream is non-stop II-III, but unless you are used to bouncing your boat over
trees, be prepared to portage several times. They come up without warning, there are lots of blind
turns, and you have to make your own eddies; but I encountered no landowners, and there were no
man-made hazards. Keep in mind that landowners in this county, while often very nice, are
frequently uptight about tresspassing. Edit
earlier post figure Craig at Parr to be 1,200 cfs and rising slightly, John's Creek to be 475 cfs
and cresting, nearby but different watershed Pott's Creek to be 650 cfs and cresting.