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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:24:39 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Gauges not being updated (again)</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,6343,6343/#msg-6343</link>
      <author>ChuckB</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The WV gauge info has not been updated since this morning.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:24:39 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Gauges not being updated</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,6288,6322/#msg-6322</link>
      <author>ChuckB</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ryan says that he fixed the problem. It looks like all is well with the WV and PA gauges.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:41:17 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Gauges not being updated</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,6288,6316/#msg-6316</link>
      <author>JohnT</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ditto for TN and MO gauges.  The latest update is 5/8 for most gauges with some TN gauges not being updated since 5/7.

JohnT]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 23:31:34 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Gauges not being updated</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,6288,6288/#msg-6288</link>
      <author>ChuckB</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It looks like the gauge info on the river pages is not being updated. The WV gauge reading are from yesterday (5/7) and the info for PA and NC is from the wee hours of this morning (5/8).

Chuck]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:02:30 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>What update when?</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,6020,6020/#msg-6020</link>
      <author>skipmorris</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Looking at the ticketing database I see a number of different updates:

v5.5 pge-updates Release
V6 GGS Updates Release
v6.5 - Membership Improvements Release
v6.6 - gauge improvements Release
v7 gis (expanded) Release

I also see different versions (gis, security) for each release.

Is there a schedule for the above releases? 

What is the difference between the versions and releases?

Just wondering what we can expect when.

thanks
/Skip]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:52:21 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Can someone make this USGS gauge an AW gauge please?</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5153,5503/#msg-5503</link>
      <author>rgroth</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It will be so good when the next update is out ;).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:48:40 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Date on pictures being lost when editing/updating</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4171,5429/#msg-5429</link>
      <author>JohnnyP</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Great.  Thanks Matt!  John Pilson]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:02:16 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,5312/#msg-5312</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Brad,

I understand that this is frustrating for you. It's one of several gauge-related things that don't work properly. Rather than insisting that each gauge-related glitch get an immediate patch, the Cyber Committee has approved the plan of having Ryan and his posse implement a wholesale re-design of the gauge system in the website. The advantage of this approach is that we will have a system which seamlessly integrates gauges from several different sources (not just USGS) and which is much more robust--and which will allow for easier upgrading of the site. The disadvantage is that this approach will take [i]months[/i], and in the meantime we will have the wart-laden system that we are working with. 

That's what Ryan meant when he made the suggestions for what ST volunteers can do &quot;for now.&quot; Trust us--it doesn't mean forever (though it may seem that way, at times :S ).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:13:37 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,5280/#msg-5280</link>
      <author>BradR</author>
      <description><![CDATA[rgroth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
. For this reach I would recommend using
&gt; the equivalent high and low stages for now since
&gt; stage keeps coming in without a problem.


Does this mean every time that USGS burps on its data we should automatically change how the gauge reads from stage to flow, or flow to stage?   Flow is the best indicator of what the stream is actually doing, unless there is a historical precedent with the gauge.   And even on runs where the stage is has been used forever, say the New River gorge, folks tend to prefer using flow over stage when possible.      The Georgia USGS page appears to have undergone some changes that are causing us problems.  If that is the case will [i]someone[/i] have to modifiy every gauge that changes back from flow to stage?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:25:59 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Can someone make this USGS gauge an AW gauge please?</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5153,5165/#msg-5165</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Kirk,

The gauge is here: [url=http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Gauge_detail_id_11046_]Little River above Townsend[/url].

Thanks for the alert.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:57:12 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Can someone make this USGS gauge an AW gauge please?</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5153,5159/#msg-5159</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Kirk,

I got your PM and email. I'll get this linked as soon as ASAP.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:52:53 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Can someone make this USGS gauge an AW gauge please?</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5153,5153/#msg-5153</link>
      <author>bankfull1</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Here is the USGS link:

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?03497300

It is the Little River above Townsend, and it will be a great improvement to the Little River reaches and others on the TN page.  Gauge info for this stuff, due to fact that only TVA and USGS gauges can be linked, has been quite deficient in the past.  Now that Little River above Townsend is USGS, well over 10 reaches on the TN page can now have accurate flow colors and links.

Thanks, and if I can do it myself, let me know how.

Kirk]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photo sizes in rapid descriptions.</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5113,5116/#msg-5116</link>
      <author>pmartzen</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It is a bug, that will get fixed.   So don't resize photos to accomodate this bug.   Just add the best full size photo for the rapid description and be patient until they are properly resized by the website again.    

Seems like there are multiple odd bugs whenever we do a website upgrade.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:00:25 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photo sizes in rapid descriptions.</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5113,5115/#msg-5115</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Skip,

I entered this into the bug tracker a few daze ago ([url=http://www.americanwhitewater.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/592]Ticket # 592[/url]). We need to be confident that the rightsizing of photos stays consistent, so that we don't have to keep editing our reach descriptions to keep up with the latest change in the code.

I'd be comfortable with thumbnailing down to 400 pixels in the horizontal dimension. I don't think we need to compress them down to 320.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:02:29 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,5114/#msg-5114</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[rgroth Wrote:
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[i]...You (as an SK) can setup multiple gauges as well to specify flow or no flow. For this reach I would recommend using the equivalent high and low stages for now since stage keeps coming in without a problem.[/i]

How do we set up multiple gauges? Are you saying that there's a tool which allows us to link a reach to a variety of gauges at the same time?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:57:24 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Photo sizes in rapid descriptions.</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,5113,5113/#msg-5113</link>
      <author>skipmorris</author>
      <description><![CDATA[What is the behavior for sizing pictures in rapids these days?

It used to be that a photo I uploaded, then added as a photo
for a rapid was resized to about 300 pixels wide.

Now it the photos appear much wider (732 pixels) today (but
still not full width which is about 1200).

I've been choosing photos for how they look at the old default
width of 300 pixels.  Should that change now?

Can we affect the default behavior?

/Skip]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:46:50 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,5098/#msg-5098</link>
      <author>rgroth</author>
      <description><![CDATA[it's back.
I've seen it down, and I noticed that the graph didn't show and the flow was blank. The logic involved is that if we get a blank flow (from a broken gauge) then we don't show the graph. We get updates about once every four hours on that gauge and we throw away the results of last flow if we get a new stage update. I suspect that USGS isn't or doesn't report a flow every once and a while (ice, flood, etc..) and then decides to do an update later. The result would be what you have seen. The new system uses the last value found in 48 hours or nothing to keep dead gauges from sticking around for 10 years. You (as an SK) can setup multiple gauges as well to specify flow or no flow. For this reach I would recommend using the equivalent high and low stages for now since stage keeps coming in without a problem.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:31:05 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,4990/#msg-4990</link>
      <author>BradR</author>
      <description><![CDATA[broken again.....]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:29:57 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,4984/#msg-4984</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I don't know why this is happening. [url=http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=02336000]The USGS site[/url] for this gage is reporting properly; we have the correct parameters for the [url=http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Gauge_detail_id_1059_]Hooch Gage[/url] in our database (and the gage does read the Flow and Stage correctly from the USGS site); and the [url=http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River_detail_id_474_]Metro Hooch[/url] reach does indeed have &quot;Flow&quot; selected as the parameter. I'm stumped; I'll try one more thing...

[color=#FF0000]Hey, that worked![/color] I reset the gage by editing the reach, selecting &quot;Stage&quot; as the parameter, then edited the reach yet again, this time correctly selecting &quot;Flow&quot; as the parameter. Now it's reading the Flow, reporting 826 cfs (as of 8 AM this morning) and color-coding it in pink ([color=#FF9933]salmon[/color]?), as it's just a few spoonfuls below the 850-cfs min. That's a workaround, equivalent to the Microsoft model of turning the 'puter off and turning it back on again...butt at least it worked, this time.

I return to what I said at the beginning: I have no idea why, without human intervention, the database decided to stop using the Flow reading and color-coding the reach.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:32:05 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Date on pictures being lost when editing/updating</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4171,4982/#msg-4982</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Okay, I fixed it (not by using the editing interface--that didn't work for me, either, so I had to go into the database and MySQL it).

Hey, Brad: you spelled &quot;soap&quot; wrong.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:12:49 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Date on pictures being lost when editing/updating</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4171,4977/#msg-4977</link>
      <author>BradR</author>
      <description><![CDATA[http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River_detail_id_500_

The above picture should be 1993, not 1969.   Unfortunately i can't seem to update or fix the info.

brad.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:16:36 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4573,4943/#msg-4943</link>
      <author>BradR</author>
      <description><![CDATA[well, it was back for a bit, and now it has dropped out again........and folks are calling me asking why.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:42:51 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photos assigned to wrong author</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4610,4900/#msg-4900</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It's tough to say. Photos are still being deleted without warning. Sometimes it's happening [i]en masse[/i]--I had a ST volunteer who had about 11 out of 21 recently uploaded photos disappear when he went to look at his adopted reach. I'm not sure about the reassignment of photos. If it happens much, that'll be a big problem--it'll be tougher to fix, because we won't necessarily know who's the real author.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:03:16 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: &quot;Directions&quot; tab doesn't work for QC rivers</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,3856,4872/#msg-4872</link>
      <author>rgroth</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Skip, our May update will likely allow 6-digit zips as well as proper support for Canada. 

Thank you for your support.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:03:56 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photos assigned to wrong author</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4610,4871/#msg-4871</link>
      <author>rgroth</author>
      <description><![CDATA[What's the big picture with this glitch? Are photo changes not taking place all the time or just sometimes AND is the author getting reassigned incorrectly or just the first problem?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:02:03 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photos assigned to wrong author</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4610,4685/#msg-4685</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Yeah, there probably is a pretty sizable glitch. (Nearly all of David's photos, by the BTW, were deleted from view.) In any case, I reassigned the photo to GA.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:53:29 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photos assigned to wrong author</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4610,4658/#msg-4658</link>
      <author>harvey</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Matt, thanks, I see them now in my photos.

Is there a glitch with editing photos?

I tried to edit the information for the photos (entrance rapid is mistakenly assigned to Alabama, doh!),. I made the change to the correct state, clicked Update photo/video, the page refreshed and the change seemed to take. But when I went to my photos and clicked on the photo to have a look, the change did not take.

Alex]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:48:22 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Photos assigned to wrong author</title>
      <link>http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Forum/read/send/25,4610,4632/#msg-4632</link>
      <author>matt</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The two photos have been reassigned to you, Alex, and undeleted.

Matt]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:42:50 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
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      <author>BradR</author>
      <description><![CDATA[##]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:09:05 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: local gauge no longer showing cfs</title>
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      <author>pmartzen</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Brad,

When someone edits a river page, the Flow - Stage setting has a tendancy to default to Stage.  I can't tell why it does this sometimes and not others.  It accepts the Flow setting when I deliberately reset it to Flow.   

So this could have been the problem on the [url=http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River_detail_id_474_]Chattahoochee at atlanta[/url] page.   It is correctly reading Flow now, so somebody fixed it.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:18:58 -0400</pubDate>
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