Big Creek - 2. NPS Campground to Confluence with Big Pigeon


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2. NPS Campground to Confluence with Big Pigeon (Lower Big Creek)

Class III-IV
2 Miles
Avg Gradient 158 fpm
Max Gradient 165 fpm

(MN) Boof at Lower Big Creek


(MN) Boof at Lower Big Creek
Photo of Mike Nail by Ted Cookson taken 4/3/2005 @ 2.5 ft

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
OCONALUFTEE RIVER AT BIRDTOWN, NC 1200 - 2700 cfs 02h58m 3390 cfs (rc= 1.5 )


River Description

This was my first introduction to creek boating "Smoky Mountain" style. The runs here are similar to being out West on the steep continuous runs there. The lower section of Big Creek offers a great step up in steep creeking for the paddler looking to expand their horizons.

This trip could be combined with some of the water above the campground for the adventurous boater. Be aware, the 1.5 mile section above the campground is more demanding than the lower section of Big Creek.

Paddled Big Creek on 5/9/03 at a level of 2.6ft on the old yellow bridge gauge, while the Oconoluftee was running about 2200cfs. It was definitely different from when I paddled it at 2.8 on the other gauge at the park. Things weren't as "BIG". Good run though, I was glad to get back out on some of that Smoky Mtn whitewater!

For more info check out Chris Bell's Asheville Area Boating Beta Page. See also Upper Big Creek for serious Class-V fun.


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Lower Big Creek @ 5 ft.

Detail Trip Report Edit  Lower Big Creek @ 5 ft.  @Big Creek 2. NPS Campground to Confluence with Big Pigeon, NC(664.93KB .jpeg)

Below Second Ledge

Detail Trip Report Edit  Below Second Ledge  Big Creek, NC(69.42KB .jpeg)

Second Ledge Below Put-in

Detail Trip Report Edit  Second Ledge Below Put-in  Big Creek, NC(26.56KB .jpeg)

double drop above second ledge

Detail Trip Report Edit  double drop above second ledge  Big Creek, NC(319.58KB .jpeg)

First Ledge Below Put-In

Detail Trip Report Edit  First Ledge Below Put-In  Big Creek, NC(73.50KB .jpeg)

(MN) Boof at Lower Big Creek

Detail Trip Report Edit  (MN) Boof at Lower Big Creek  Big Creek, NC(55.20KB .jpeg)

(MN) Quality splatting at Lower Big Creek put in

Detail Trip Report Edit  (MN) Quality splatting at Lower Big Creek put in  Big Creek, NC(70.97KB .jpeg)

(MN) Riding through some rapids at Lower Big Creek

Detail Trip Report Edit  (MN) Riding through some rapids at Lower Big Creek  Big Creek, NC(90.10KB .jpeg)

(MN) Lower Big Creek, right below put-in

Detail Trip Report Edit  (MN) Lower Big Creek, right below put-in  Big Creek, NC(87.58KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The readings above are for the Oconaluftee River, which is the next drainage to the south of Big Creek.

Lower Big Creek is almost certainly running when the Oconaluftee is between 1,200 and 2,700 cfs; it is generally running when the Oconoluftee is as low 850 cfs.

Once at the creek, confirm the level using the gauge painted on the river right piling of the bridge next to the picnic area near the confluence of Big Creek and the Big Pigeon.

1.6' minimum level
2'-2.5' optimal
3.0'+ high water creekin'

It is often true that when the TVA's Little Pigeon at Sevierville (not the same as the USGS's Little Pigeon at Sevierville) gauge is between 1,500 and 3,000 cfs, Big Creek is running.

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
OCONALUFTEE RIVER AT BIRDTOWN, NC
usgs-03512000 1200 - 2700 cfs 02h58m 3390 cfs (rc= 1.5 )

RangeWater LevelComment
1200.0000-2700.0000 barely runnable-high runnable

Report - Reports of Big Creek 2. NPS Campground to Confluence with Big Pigeon and related gauges

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When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
46d20h15m @Big Creek 2. NPS Campground to Confluence with Big Pigeon [NC] Lower Big Creek n/a royce cowan
4y222d19h41m Big Creek [NC] (MN) Boof at Lower Big Creek 2.5 ft Mike Nail
6y42d19h41m Big Creek [NC] First Ledge Below Put-In (very low) Stuart Smith
6y223d19h41m Big Creek [NC] double drop above second ledge around 3' Stuart Smith
6y223d19h41m Big Creek [NC] Below Second Ledge Around 3' Stuart Smith

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User Comments


2004-06-22 23:39:24 (1967 days ago)
theshy oneDetails
I don't care what they say the levels need to be. I was on it Thurs. 6-17. The gauge said the
oconoluftee was running 700-725 that day. Caught a big thunderhead on the way in from Asheville,
did a quick run on the Pigeon, and 2 hours later the Big was running BIG! They say it got up to 3
ft that day. A friend I talked into it lost her boat and paddle. Anyway, 2 days later (Sat, the
19th) I decided to scrape down to try and find the lost boat. The gauge said that the OC ran 400
cfs that day. I was surprised to find all the rapids between the campground footbridge and the Mt
Sterling Rd bridge to be quite clean and still fun, but the closer I got to the powerhouse, the
scrapier things got. Point is, I believe that this summer may have alot of late afternoon creek
runs after thunderstorms that are so brief (and local) that they may not even show up on the
gauges. If clouds are on thier way, head to big creek and hope for the best!
STRAINER ALERT - Not far below the Mt Sterling Rd bridge is a rapid where the river equally splits.
The left chute fans out over most of the riverbed, getting shallow and rocky, while the right chute
funnels to the right, getting deeper and ending in a small drop above a 5 ft slot between 2 large
boulders. THERE IS A TREE STUCK BETWEEN THESE 2 BOULDERS!! It may not be a problem at higher water
flows, but it was there the other day. And by the time you see it, you may not be able to catch an
eddy outta there. Downstream, at the islands, the left chute strainer has cleared enough to run, as
long as you stay left.

2004-03-02 18:44:51 (2079 days ago)
Stuart SmithDetails
shortly after you go under the cataloochee road bridge (first car bridge you come to), you should
be able to see the local store on river left. just past it, the creek is split by an island and
rejoins a little further downstream into a stretch of flatwater. the creek is split by another
island after the flatwater and both sides have a large creekwide strainer across them. the strainer
on river right seems to be there for a long stay; one on river left is slowly giving away to the
water.

took a look at it today at 738cfs - at this level you could duck and get under them but at levels
you could actually run this comfortably, they're going to be a problem.
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