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Rocky Broad - 1. Bridge at Flat Creek Rd to Bridge at U.S. Route 64


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Rocky Broad,

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1. Bridge at Flat Creek Rd to Bridge at U.S. Route 64 (Upper Rocky Broad)

Usual Difficulty IV-V (may vary with level)
Length 3.6 Miles
Avg. Gradient 127 fpm
Max Gradient 210 fpm

4th Fall- Rocky Broad - Will


4th Fall- Rocky Broad - Will
Photo of Will Reeves by Brad Roberts taken 6-7-2003 @ getting high



River Description

Technically still the Broad River on all the maps but well known as the "Rocky Broad". The second down to Hwy. 64 is known as the Upper Rocky Broad.

The highlight of the URB 4 good back to back waterfalls in the upper stretch. These are followed by a tree filled boulder garden, then a fast multi-level drop called Flight Simulator, then two slides, then lots of good boulder gardens and boogie water. The last notable rapid before the takeout is a slide around a very nastily undercut boulder that tends to collect a bit of wood. Be aware of trees and strainers on any part of this run, and please post new strainers below using our comments section.

Leland Davis wrote a nice story about the Rocky Broad that honored the memory of the late Pablo Perez -- A Rite of Friendship. This article appeared in the July/August '98 issue of American Whitewater. That incident, which involved a blind drop and a hidden log took the life of one the SE's top paddlers. You can read the AWA Safety Report about that incident.

Levels are determined largely by the amount of rain that hits the top of the watershed, which is between Fairview and Black Mountain, NC. This rugged area, just over the ridge from much of Asheville's hyper-development has thus far stayed largely rural, and responds well to rain, often holding for a solid day at decent levels after a winter rain storm hits the headwaters.

Fortunately for paddlers, that rain is measured by the Automated Flood Warning System, which has rain gauges and a river gauge on the Rocky Broad here. Check the Bat Cave river gauge #1917 for the river level.

AFWS has both a rain and stream gauge located on the Broad River at the intersection of Hwy 64 and Hwy 9 in Bat Cave. The stream gauge does not correlate exactly to the physical paddlers gauge, but as more and more paddlers use this online gauge we are starting to get some correlations. AFWS 3.9 is a scrapy minimum on the Lower. 4.5 is starting to develop push on the Lower. Meanwhile, 5.0 is considered a nice medium level on the upper and 4.6 is probably getting pretty bare.

We are still collecting data points, so please report both USGS visual paddlers gauge data and AFWS data and your impressions of the run in the comments section below.
StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2007-01-25 00:27:25

Editors

Stream Team Editor
Dana Culbreth and Will Hanna
Charlotte, NC


Below the Falls

Detail Trip Report Edit  Below the Falls  Rocky Broad, nc(41.40KB .jpeg)

2nd and 3rd Falls on the Rocky Broad

Detail Trip Report Edit  2nd and 3rd Falls on the Rocky Broad  Rocky Broad, nc(40.31KB .jpeg)

More RB

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Crux of the last rapid

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Dropping in the final hole

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Flirting with the undercut

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Bob on the second slide

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second slide below the falls

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4th Fall - Rocky Broad

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Eric on the First Falls

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Will dropping in on the Gnarr

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Chilling below Guido

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Banging off the 3rd ledge

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4th Fall- Rocky Broad - Will

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The 3 waterfalls - Rocky Broad

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Last big one - Rocky Broad

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Eric below the 2nd waterfall

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Rocky Broad first waterfall

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takeout

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1st Falls on RB

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Boulder Garden

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Air Time on Rocky Broad

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Rocky Broad Boof

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

Visual at the last rapid, off NC 9 above the Hwy 74 bridge.

There is an AFWS gauge on the HWY 64 bridge, and a USGS gauge. These gauges read very differently.

Around 3.5 on the USGS gauge should be considered a minimum. It's common to look for better than 4.5 on AWFS Gauge 1917.

Report - Reports of Rocky Broad 1. Bridge at Flat Creek Rd to Bridge at U.S. Route 64 and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Rocky Broad [NC] 1st Falls on RB Just Rained Marissa Ray
Rocky Broad [NC] Eric below the 2nd waterfall n/a will reeves
3y69d13h48m Rocky Broad [NC] Rocky Broad Boof med Ben Williams
4y106d13h48m Rocky Broad [NC] Boulder Garden 4.1ft, bridge gauge Kevin Ryan
6y170d13h48m Rocky Broad [NC] takeout high will reeves
6y170d13h48m Rocky Broad [nc] Eric on the First Falls getting high Brad Roberts
6y170d13h48m Rocky Broad [nc] Below the Falls high Brad Roberts

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User Comments


2009-05-29 11:24:45 (177 days ago)
I forgot to mention that as posted previously the "last rapid" is a total no go!!! there is no way
around or over the tree...as soon as I can return, I plan on cutting the tree from the last drop of
the upper...with some help I think we can make this rapid runnable again. Thanks...Jwall Edit

2009-05-29 11:19:58 (177 days ago)
as of 5/28/2009 all wood is easily avoidable...from the river you can see on the river left bank at
the second drop, a tree is barely handing on by the roots...may be a concern after another hard
rain...watch for wood and a few hidden pin/sieves...other than that..this run is a total classic
run...look @ the bridge gauge to be between 4.1/5 ft...Jwall Edit

2008-12-15 11:41:31 (342 days ago)
The "Last Rapid", the slide into the undercut, class 5, is a mandatory portage as of 12/12/08.
There is a huge tree that is stuck all the way from the undercut to the right bank and there is no
safe line around. Be sure to scout and get ready to portage. Safe boating. Edit

2003-07-09 13:27:08 (2328 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
Still being worked out.... New
Forum: BoaterTalk
Re: New Trees in Rocky Broad.... by moheinous Jul 09 2003, 12:15 GMT New
Re: What's the minimum Level? by
From: moheinous

The AWFS site is very unreliable, but recently it's been showing a flow @ Bat Cave. I ran the lower
with a too low flow yesterday at 4.1 AWFS online reading, I would guess about 4.5 would be a good
minimum. This number dosen't coorespond with the USGS bridge guage(not online) at Bat Cave(1st
bridge over the lower). The bridge guage said 3.6, so I would quess about 4.0 for that guage
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.5First FallsIVWaterfall
0.52nd and 3rd fallsIV+Waterfall Photo
0.54th waterfallIVWaterfall Photo
0.6Boulder Clog below the falls5.0Photo
0.7Slide below the boulder clog.IV+Photo
3.4Top of the last rapid5.0Photo
3.4Bottom of the last rapid5.0Photo
3.6Take-outIII+Takeout Photo

Rapid Descriptions

First Falls (Class IV, Mile 0.5)
10 or 15 foot tall waterfall with a questionable landing zone. You'll be landing very close to rocks.

2nd and 3rd falls (Class IV+, Mile 0.5)

2nd and 3rd Falls on the Rocky Broad

2nd and 3rd Falls on the Rocky Broad
Photo of Brad Roberts by Kevin Miller taken 6-7-03 @ high

Big waterfall that leads into two more big drops

4th waterfall (Class IV, Mile 0.5)

4th Fall - Rocky Broad

4th Fall - Rocky Broad
Photo of Twistedphister by Brad Roberts taken 6-7-03 @ high

Center is best. The line in the photo lands on rocks. Don't blame the boater, blame the guy at the bottom who showed him a bad line.

Boulder Clog below the falls (Class 5.0, Mile 0.6)

Boulder Garden

Boulder Garden
Photo of Boulder Garden by Kevin Ryan taken 8/9/05 @ 4.1ft, bridge gauge

The boulder clog is most often full of wood, so scout it and see what you think. There are a variety of possible routes, but none of them are easy and neither is the portage. A standard line if there is no wood is to go to the left side of the rock-pile island and take the far left slot and immediate the far left slot, though stay right in this slot to be up on a boulder to boof off. The run out is class IV down to the eddies above Flight Simulator.

Slide below the boulder clog. (Class IV+, Mile 0.7)

Bob on the second slide

Bob on the second slide
Photo of Bob Phister by Brad Roberts taken 6-7-03 @ high

Immediately below the boulder clog is a small slide. Around the corner from that is a big one that leads into some large ledge hole.

Top of the last rapid (Class 5.0, Mile 3.4)

Will dropping in on the Gnarr

Will dropping in on the Gnarr
Photo of Will Reeves by Kevin Miller taken 6-7-2003 @ getting high

A slide into a big hole, back by an undercut with wood crammed into the base of the undercut.

Bottom of the last rapid (Class 5.0, Mile 3.4)

Last big one - Rocky Broad

Last big one - Rocky Broad
Photo of Eric Paysen by Brad Roberts taken 6-7-2003 @ getting high

Come around the undercut on the right, try not to get stuck in the eddy, then slide down the ramp and punch the hole at the bottom. At this waterflow the eddy at the bottom was 'interesting'.

Take-out (Class III+, Mile 3.6)

takeout

takeout
Photo of Brad Roberts by Will Reeves taken 7 June 2003 @ high




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