Independence - Bradish Road to Old Pine Grove Road


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Bradish Road to Old Pine Grove Road

Usual Difficulty II-V (may vary with level)
Length 2.6 Miles
Avg. Gradient 85 fpm
Max Gradient 100 fpm

Independence River


Independence River
Photo of Adrian and Jim by Rick Sherry taken 11/12/2005 @ 450 cfs

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
INDEPENDENCE RIVER AT DONNATTSBURG NY
usgs-04256000 200 - 2000 cfs II-V 01h58m 158 cfs (rc= -0.0 )


River Description

Most paddlers put in at Bradish Rd.

This is a really fun river, one of the best in the area, when it's running.

Phil Bonn shares:

"Having run this river for the first time just wanted to say what a blast! the putin can be found by turning on to Austin Road from Pine Grove Road; there is a small white church on the corner. Austin Road is on the North side of the Indy and is paved all the way up, versus Bradish Rd., which is dirt. You go up Austin about 2 miles until you see a sign that says "bridge closed" and a dirt road going off to the right. Take this short piece of dirt road and you're at the putin.
"The first mile or so of the Indy is continuous class 2-3 rock-dodge with 2-3 small drops or slides under 9'. We scouted on the fly, eddy-hopping all the way.
"After that comes a much-welcomed flatwater stretch about 3/4 to 1 mile long. near the end of the flatwater you will see large granite outcrops and boulders with a distinct horizon line. Take out on river left near the dark colored boulder and scout the rapids here. The main part has 3 routes: the right channel is a series of small drops, the middle one a little harder 'z' drop, and the left channel is a hard looking 'sluice' which more daring souls than I can try!
"After this come a couple of slides and a 12'(?) drop just before a closed bridge. After passing under the bridge, the less adventurous types should eddy out river-right and walk the next rapid. Here the main channel goes all the way left against a rock cliff for 60 - 70 yards, with a large pillow of water along the whole length.
"The takeout is just downstream at the bridge for Pine Grove Rd."

Lat/longitude coords verified by GPS.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2009-05-31 00:27:58

Editors

Stream Team Editor
Jim Dobbins
561 Shorecliff Dr
Rochester, NY 14612
Stream Team Editor
Matt Muir
Fairport, NY


Independence River Map

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Fat Lady

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Nearing the last section with finesse !

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This is more like it !

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Making this look so easy !

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Nearing the last section

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Hang On !

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Micro 230 being tested

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Sharon Makes a come-back

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SuperStar Mike

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Last Chance

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Bubba working the InaZone 220

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Welcome to the Pleasure Dome

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Coming through the entry of "The Dome"

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Independence River

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Phantomboater

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Good to the Last Drop

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Going down

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First Significant Drop

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The last peep out of Fat Lady

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Steve said it doesn't look like there's anything else.

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Independence River

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Independence River

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Independence River

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Independence

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I see a helmet

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Independence River

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Fun at low water

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Bottom of the slide

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Fat Lady Bottom

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Independance, Fat Lady 1000+

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Hans loves knar

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The minimum level is a recommendation from Sharon Heller, who notes that she knows people who've run it at 190. (What's 10 cfs among friends?)

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
INDEPENDENCE RIVER AT DONNATTSBURG NY
usgs-04256000 200 - 2000 cfs II-V 01h58m 158 cfs (rc= -0.0 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
0 - 200 cfs extremely Low-barely Low II-V
200 -2000 cfs barely runnable-high runnable II-V Above 1000 cfs, it's really high.

Report - Reports of Independence Bradish Road to Old Pine Grove Road and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Independence [NY] Independence River 400 cfs Matt Muir
Independence [NY] Nearing the last section with finesse ! 250cfs Phantom Boater
Independence [NY] Independence River Map n/a Matt Muir
3y222d12h42m Independance [NY] Fat Lady Bottom 1000+ Liane O'Hora
4y11d12h42m Independence [NY] Independence River 450 cfs Jim Dobbins
4y21d12h42m Independence [NY] Hans loves knar 440 cfs Adrian VandenBout
4y157d12h42m Independence [NY] Fun at low water pretty low Jim Dobbins
4y161d12h42m Independence [NY] Fat Lady 200 cfs Matt Muir
6y47d12h42m Independence [NY] Welcome to the Pleasure Dome 490 cfs ? John Alden
6y201d12h42m Independence [NY] Last Chance 310 cfs Phantom Boater
6y211d12h42m Independence [NY] Independence River 320 CFS Patrick Rogers
7y35d12h42m Independence [NY] The last peep out of Fat Lady 600 Stephen Strange
7y193d12h42m Independence [NY] Bubba working the InaZone 220 250 cfs Phantom Boater
7y203d12h42m Independence River [NY] Phantomboater 260cfs Sharon Heller
7y232d12h42m Independence River [NY] Steve said it doesn't look like there's anything else. 220cfs (low) Stephen Strange

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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0Gauge
1.4PowerlineIII
2.1BoofIII+
2.9Fat LadyIV+Portage Hazard
3.1Bridge BoofIVWaterfall
3.2The WallIV

Rapid Descriptions

Gauge
The gauge is just downstream of the putin, on the downstream river right-side of the bridge.

Powerline (Class III, Mile 1.4)
Photo of Bubba by Steve Graley (PhantomBoater) at 260 cfs on 05/05/02.










Boof (Class III+, Mile 2.1)
Hans loves gnar!This rapid needs a good name.
There are several ways to run this boof, but the picture shows one of the most popular lines.
Photo of Hans Merritt by Adrian VandenBout on 11-12-05, at 440 cfs.








Fat Lady (Class IV+, Mile 2.9)
After the Fat Lady slideThis is the Big One, the reason why people run the Indy. It starts with a weird slide by an old diversion dam. Typically, the boater heads left for the big slide (pictured), although it's possible to head right for a narrow channel with a fierce hole. The runout leads the paddler to the boof at the bridge (next rapid).
Photo by Steve Graley of Jim Mumme on 5/2/02 at 250 cfs.





Bridge Boof (Class IV, Mile 3.1)
Boof @ da BridgeThis is typically regarded as the last drop of the Fat Lady. (Note the slide way up there in the background). You can see it coming by looking for the old bridge above the river. There are creases and channels you don't want to be in, but at normal levels, this isn't too tough a drop. Scout from the bridge.
Photo of Mike Nickel by Steve Graley on 5/2/02 at 250 cfs.






The Wall (Class IV, Mile 3.2)
Soon after the bridge is the last rapid. The intrepid paddler hugs the left wall and then heads out into the center through a chaotic jumble of boofs, holes, and messy stuff. Scout from the bridge.
Photo of Marty Murphy by Phantomboater at 310 cfs on 5/17/03.









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