Sandy Creek, |
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| Usual Difficulty | II-III (may vary with level) |
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| Name | Range | Difficulty | Updated | Level |
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| SANDY CREEK NEAR ADAMS NY | ||||
| usgs-04250750 | 2000 - 3000 cfs | II-III | 01h11m | 167 cfs (rc= -1.8 ) |
| BLACK RIVER AT WATERTOWN NY | ||||
| usgs-04260500 | 7000 - 15000 cfs | II-III | 01h41m | 3740 cfs (rc= -0.4 ) |
We ran this in the summer of 2008 (when we were getting hammered with rain and the Black was up around 8 or 9 grand in July and August). Great run, but here are some notes to consider (both good and bad)
Even with the crap smell, I'd run this one again.
There's an alternate putin downstream of Thomas Settlement, at County Roads 91 and 82
(43.802788,-76.081524). Dan adds:
"When we were getting ready, a property owner from down the street told us that we were on his
property. Now where we were was barely a shoulder before dropping into the river, so I believe
that we were within our legal right to park and access the river there. But the guy turned out to
be really nice and just wanted us to ask next time. He lives in the white house downstream on the
right (I think). So it might be good to stop by and speak with him."
Mo beta from Dan,:
"I would say class II-III, though it's tough to say really. Most of the drops you can dodge the holes, but there are two drops that go vertical (or can go vertical if you're in the right spot). One thing to note would be the lack of eddies. I only have pictures of the flats because there were not that many places to stop and take pictures of the good stuff. By the time I found an eddy I was very far downstream. Everything is boat scoutable, especially if you have a willing probe. Ours was Frank and a friend in a two-person sea kayak. You know you're going to have fun when the giant sea kayak exits a hole in a completely different trajectory than it entered! Accounting for all of that I would say that someone with class II-III skills would be okay, but it's not a river I would feel comfortable taking someone with no roll, but only because I don't want to spend the day chasing their crap down the river. Really there are no dangers that I could see. It is shallow even at higher water, but the bottom is solid bedrock with very few rocks or boulders. Maybe class II+ to III- would be more accurate. (I'm a solid class III-IV boater and I had a fun day, but nothing was too hard or challenging, mainly just fun).
"About levels, I think that we put on at around 2k-3k cfs, but it was dropping fast. Frank said
that the difficult thing about the North Branch is that it has a very small range that would be
worth running. Too low and you'll be wheelchairing the entire day. Too high and everything washes
out. Though I'd imagine that the big drop would get very interesting (aka terrifying holes of cow
manure water and long swims in cow manure water), but that wouldn't make the whole trip worth it.
The water will be very think with sediment and look deep, but in reality it is only 6-12" at the
most. All of the drops are about finding where the water is going putting yourself there, and
with the right level you can run anything anywhere."
Note: Squires' book rates this I-V, but nothing in the description says anything about V drops.
Lat/longitude coords are approximate, from TopoZone.