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1. Walter's Power Plant at Waterville to Bridge at Hartford (The Dirty Bird!)

Class II-III
4.2 Miles

The Dragon Baby


The Dragon Baby
Photo of Brian Nicholson by Chris Young taken Summer 2000

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
PIGEON R BL POWER PLANT NR WATERVILLE, NC 1200 - 2500 cfs 00h29m 2170 cfs (rc= 0.7 )


River Description

This is a great break from the summer heat for many regional boaters. The put in is located at the Walter's Hydro-Plant, the Big Creek confluence in Waterville. Look for the many many boaters. Also, before you put on please sign in at the hut with the Cocke County Constable. This is not necessary, but it helps with their study about outdoor tourism to the area.

The rapids from the put-in to the bridge are the mildest of the trip. Many beginners take out here. The most popular play spot on this section is Razor-Rock, mile .5 on river left. Here, many people learn to do their first cartwheels.

Below the bridge, the rapids increase with difficulty, but never reaching above class III+. The first play spot is Snapdragon, a twenty foot wide hole at low levels, becoming a wave at higher flows. Playground is a few rapids below. Today, both Snapdragon and Playground are park-and-play by many.

Below there, Lost Guide has the largest obsticle on the river. In the middle of the river is a large sticky hydraulic that should probably be avoided by most beginners/intermediates. Most run it on river right to avoid the hole. Rollercoaster is the next rapid. The first wave can be enjoyed by longer boats.

There are several more rapids after this, and then you reach Hartford.




Comment: Stolen from BT from Crunchy:

First rapid:
Powerhouse.
Can be run left, middle or right.
Middle is the hardest. Bigger waves, holes, etc.
Easier is to run the left line.
Go just to the right of the big rock (on river left) at the top of the rapid.
Behind the rock the flow is slower (not really an eddy) and you can work through this flow to one of three eddies on river left.
There is a dead tree laying on the bank.
The tree is a good indicator of the three eddies.
Catching one of these eddies breaks up the lenght of the rapid.
Peel out and work to the middle to avoid rocks on river left.
Look for three dry rocks about 10 yards off the left bank.
Eddy behind these rocks or just below.
Congrats! That\'s Powerhouse.

Next is BFR:
You can run either right or left of Big Freeking Rock. I recommend stopping below it in the eddy.
The next rapid:
The water channels to the right side of the river below BFR.
The easiest line through this on the left side of the channel.
There is a hole on the right. (not a keeper) I love to punch this one.
After the hole there are offset waves and holes.
Easiest is on the left side. (to miss the hole)

Next is Razor Rock.
It is on river left. Great play spot.
Easiest is to stay in the middle of the current about 20 yards off the left bank. Trying to get into the eddy below Razor is harder the higher you hit the eddy.
Below Razor Rock there is a 10-yard wide hole just off the left bank.
This starts the next rapid.
Easiest is to pick your way down the right side.
The left side (after the hole) is the hardest.
There is another slide (playspot) on river left.
After that the river is fairly flat until the bridge.
After the bridge the river channels to the right again.
Easiest is to stay toward the left/center of the rapid.
The right has another nice hole.
After this is another little rapid with boogie water.

Next is Snap Dragon.
The river will make a big bend to the right.
The water will channel to the left.
The left side is where the big waves and holes are.
The center/right is easiest.
It will flow into another rapid that is easier the farther right you go.
Below this is a great area to play.
Super easy to miss stuff you don\'t want to hit.
This will continue until you see:

Lost Guide.
There is a triangular-shaped rock in the middle of the river.
That is your marker for the top of Lost Guide.
The sneak:
Have your boat about half-way between the rock and the right bank. (about 20-yards from the right bank.
Note: the rafts and normal line is about 10-yards off the right bank.
As soon as you see the river turning left, look for the big hole just to the left of the big rock on river left. (there may be people sitting on it)
Find the hole and look left for the green line that flows past the left side of the hole.
Follow that line up stream and see that the water comes from the left side of another (boat-sized) dry rock.
Turn left about 5 yards from this rock. The rock will pass down your right side.
This will put you on the green flow and you\'ll clear the big hole with eaze.

Next is Roostertail.
Easy line is down the right.
River flattens for a while until Double Reactionary.
Sneak is to eddy on the right above the rapid.
Look for just enough water flowing over the rocks on the right to bump your boat down.
Turn right to avoid Tombstone Rock and the wild water.
Stay far right (real bumpy, swallow) until you pass Super Glue hole.

The next rapid is Accelerator.
Go far left. (this is not the raft or regular hard boat line)
The line is one boat-width off the left bank.
This will give you a straight line down Accelerator and keeps you far away from Presidential Hole.
Stay left all the way down.
Those are the sneaks through the Pigeon.
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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The gauge is located in north carolina just below Walter's power plant. The release schedules are as follows:

*Memorial Day - Labor Day *Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday 12:00pm - 6:00pm

Walter's Power Plant also releases during the winter and spring occasionally. I've found a lot of these "off-season" releases to be towards the end of the day. The number for Pigeon information is 1*800*899*4435

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
PIGEON R BL POWER PLANT NR WATERVILLE, NC
usgs-03460795 1200 - 2500 cfs 00h29m 2170 cfs (rc= 0.7 )

RangeWater LevelComment
1200.0000-2500.0000 barely runnable-high runnable

Report - Reports of Pigeon 1. Walter's Power Plant at Waterville to Bridge at Hartford and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Pigeon [Tn] Christy looking mean at Double Reactionary n/a paul podgorski
Pigeon River [NC] Double Reactionary 1350 cfs David McConnell
Pigeon [TN] (MN) The ultimate shuttle vehicle.. when its not broken down n/a Mike Nail
Pigeon1. Walter's Power Plant at Waterville to Bridge at Hartford [ ] VCC on Pigeon n/a Kyle Nicholson
Pigeon River [TN] Pigeon River n/a Chris Gorman
Pigeon River [TN] The Dragon Baby n/a Daniel Talley
2y132d05h43m Pigeon [TN] Accelerator Sneek n/a Timothy Flanagan

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User Comments


2009-05-05 04:19:14 (187 days ago)
The Pigeon Runs alot in the off season, the Key to catching it is knowing the right # to call and
how to "read" the data that you get. The number is 1-800-899-4435, you want the walters (?) lake
level and in-flow. This is posted at 8am every morning. what I was told (and seems to hold true) is
when the in-flow is over 400-500 cfs the lake fills up around a foot an hour. If the in-flow is
this high or higher and the lake is 1 to 3 ft down then they will release at least some. That said
it relates to the weather, summer dry, no rain= no release. Winter, fall or spring and rain is
forcast the you are a go. The higher the in-flow the better your chances are. I lived there for
over 2 yrs and have been skunked by looking at the take out and saying it runing lets go. They can
and will cut it off at anytime, exp. if they see you attempting a moon light run. That has been one
of the best things I have done in a boat (raft, wish I was in my Kayak). Hope this helps. Edit

2009-04-10 07:06:02 (212 days ago)
I have worked as a commercial guide some time now, living in the southeast. I call the Pigeon River
home in the spring and summer months, and spend as much time playing on that river as working. This
spring, thankfully, we have gotten a substantial amount of rain, and it seems as though a couple
rapids have changed. The biggest change that has happened this season seems to be the bottom hole
of Lost Guide, the first class IV rapid, about 3 miles from the put in. It seems that some rocks
have moved, making the bottom of the rapid steeper, and also making the hole more of a hydraulic,
and less of a wave. This has become a GREAT surf spot, for both kayaks and rafts, with a huge eddy
on the river right side, just below the hole. Its easy to paddle into, and super easy recovery
below the rapid. This has become the best surf spot on the Pigeon by far, hope everyone enjoys!! Edit

2009-01-06 10:05:02 (306 days ago)
Boaters please note that snapdragon, listed as "dragonbaby" on AW's page, washed out in the floods
after hurricane Ivan in 2004. There is now a 20-30 ft long steel beam in the middle of the rapid
right after lost guide (rooster tail). Also there is new hole about a half a mile up stream of lost
guide river center which rafts will catch on the fly. I've heard it called "last chance" or
Chewey's coffin", not much fun for hard boaters but watch out for floating undercuts! Happy
paddling Edit

2008-09-12 09:47:56 (422 days ago)
Powerhouse is a terrible swim. When I started solo canoeing I spilled at the top and flushed
through the rapid. There are a ton of rocks and you're practically holding your breath the entire
swim Edit

2008-02-04 03:08:14 (643 days ago) n/a n/a
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2007-12-29 05:02:50 (680 days ago)
This river is a great novice run. I strongly recommend not sneaking any of the rapids for fun
reasons and for safety reasons.It starts off right away with power house. If you want to make it a
challenge catch the eddy behind the big rock on river left. Than you have some boogy water until
you get to razor rock where you can get some pretty big enders. Than you get to vegamatic, all that
is there are big fun waves. Next you get to snapdragen. Be careful to stay up here it's really
shallow. Then you get to lost guide which is probably the hardest rapid on the river. Just go right
to left to stay away form a hole and a rock that splits the river into 2 sections. Than you go to
roster tail which is just waves. Than you have the flat water part of the river. The next rapid is
called double reaction area. You really don't want to hit the pour over unless you want a head
twister. The finally rapid is called Accelerater. You want to start right then head for river left
than back to river right at the very end. At the very end you have some little stuff than you're
down. Edit

2006-08-26 18:26:31 (1170 days ago) philippe damiano
Very soon, Blue Ridge papermill will be coming up for its new permit. I hope AW and any other
whitewater or outdoor enthusiast will do there part in fighting the renewal of this permit. The
Pigeon River is at stake.

FYI,
an alternate line at Lost Guide is to run far right (about 10 ft from the river right bank) and
then cut left after passing the hole.

At Accelerator, start river right at a small curling wave and cut diagonally left across the rapid.
For the post about Maytag be careful running this hole. Ther is rebar in the hole and it can do
some damage. Rooster Tail does have rebar in the hole. I have been a guide on the river it is
there. Edit

2005-05-25 15:41:33 (1628 days ago)
Kevin ColburnDetails
A Report From the Pigeon:

a local rafting company manager was in a shredder yesterday with us three hardboaters and he
pointed out new rebar lying lengthwise in the playhole after LOST GUIDE RAPID. It's normally called
"ROOSTER TAIL RAPID" -- the next rapid after LOST GUIDE. I didn't know its name but he said that's
what everybody calls it. The rafting mgr said they normally allow their customers to jump and swim
this normally safe rapid but now with the rebar they can no longer do that. He pointed out that if
someone were to roll at this popular playhole it could do some serious damage to one's head. I
skirted the meat to the right yesterday and was fine. My two friends from Knoxville ran the meat
and were fine. It was about 3000 CFS so we didn't really see it but the mgr. assures us that at
regular flow it's visible and quite a problem. So, he requested that we spread the word to all
hardboaters: "Catch an eddy way before ROOSTER TAIL if you swim LOST GUIDE and it's probably best
to not play in that wonderful hole anymore." You can still run the meat of the rapid and not get
hurt --- well as long as you don't flip in the meat.

By the way, the bottom hole at the Rooster Tail rapid is still good to surf, the top hole is the
one with the rebar in it.

He also said that the river widened a bit after the floods and therefore the Pigeon holes aren't as
good as they used be.

2005-04-01 15:06:10 (1682 days ago)
Michael BriereDetails
This river has change since the floods of 2004, like most rivers here in the SE. Snapdragon is gone
as well as the play immediately below this. The hole at the bottom of Guide Sucker is good, not the
ledge, but the hole next to the rock. There are tons of holes to hit on the fly. The waves at
Rollercoater are gone as well. Still lots of fun but it is "The Dirty Bird!"

2004-04-30 17:08:25 (2018 days ago)
Travis ProffittDetails
Quite possibly one of the best river runs in the south! If you've never checked out this totally
awesome river you definitely should! Lots of fun, pillowy water that can treat you well if you give
it the respect it deserves. When you get to Hartford, don't get out! There's some fun ledges below
the traditional take out that can be a lot of fun to play on. Oh yeah, and Maytag near the lower
run's takeout! Pretty fun rapid with a pretty munchy hole! This river has improved tons in recent
years about people should support an environmental victory! If you're ever in East Tennesee you
have to get on this river and try it out! Happy paddling!

2002-10-25 22:11:38 (2570 days ago)
Chris GuptillDetails
One more little note about Accelerator:
It was created when the folks building
I-40 blasted out part of the river bed.
Thus, it's an unnatural rapid. being
upside down in your boat here is real
bad, as the natural angular cleavage of
the rocks in the area and the blasting
combined make for a rather chaotic
river bed. I've run the hole here a
whole lot of times (I was a guide
there), and it is frequently run by hard
boaters. But for pete's sake, hit it
straight. There are a lot of nasty little
obstacles just below. if you want to
avoid the hole, I would suggest setting
up more center. There's a green
highway that will take you straight
down.
Oh, and at lower flows, running the
cheat line on the right in the Guide can
almost be harder and more
dangerous from a flipping stand point
in the hole. That side is real shallow,
and I've seen a number of head
injuries there from boaters who rode
down underwater. Hit the hole straight
and you're golden.

2002-05-02 09:51:04 (2747 days ago)
Lawrence BrewerDetails
A few additional notes on the Pigeon:
Powerhouse rapid, the first ww after the putin, is a 100 yard stretch of solid Class III. Just
after that is Full of Water, a short Class III drop that is playable.

Lost Guide is a Class III rapid with a Class IV slot (raft line middle, just left of the pourover).
I've seen kayaks and people held and recerculated in the hole and a number of commercial rafts flip
there. The hole isn't as sticky now as it once was 5-6 years ago (spring floods shifted the rocks
there) when a raft guide had to be resusitated on the rock just below the rapid.

The other 2 rapids which, along with the Guide, constitute the Big 3 on the Pigeon are Double
Reactionary and Accellerator and you'll find them around 3.5 miles down. On Double, the entire
river is pushed through a 15-20 foot slot on river left, where Tombstone rock creates a 4-5 foot
curling wave to the right. There is also a hole in the entrance that slows you down before getting
to the curler. The rapid is III+/IV depending on level.

Just after Double, on river right, is a great P&P surf spot for advanced paddlers called Super
Glue. It's very surfable, but there is great potential to smack the rock that causes the hole if
you flip...quite a few teeth have been lost there.

Accellerator is about 75 yards after Super Glue. It is a 25 yard stretch which loses 12-15 feet of
elevation, with a river wide horizon line. The kayak line is right-to-left, skirting the Class IV
President's Hole at the bottom. The raft line is to barrell over the hole. The good thing is either
way you will hit it with a lot of speed. The bad thing is it is the worst swim on the river
(Powerhouse is bad, too, but the rock aren't very sharp...Accellerator is lined with some cutters).
There is also significant foot-entrapment risk here.

Summer releases are usually between 1,000-1,200 cfs which is pretty tame. If you get the chance to
go 1,800 to 2,000, it'll be a pushy, fun ride. 2,500 and up starts washing out the drops but still
makes for a fun raft trip.

BTW, the river has really made a lot of progress returning to health in recent years. According to
TWRA it is again supporting a significant fish population and is on par with most other area rivers
as far as pollution levels (thanks for your work, AW!!!). However, it still has a brownish tinge
and some suds from the Canton, NC papermill releasing color into the water.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
1.5SnapdragonPlayspot

Rapid Descriptions

Snapdragon
A nice hole that becomes a wave at higher flows. At lower flows, the middle to river right side of the hole is the deepest spot. The hole is shallow, but take time and search for the sweet spots to throw blunts and cartwheels...or whatever you would like to do. The eddy is on river left and can hole up to 10 people. When you wash out, paddle back hard to make the eddy. If not, catch the next eddy below and work your way up through the rocks. This takes practice, but it can be done without getting out of your boat. Paddle hard to the rocks and then put you boat slightly on its right edge into the crack. Throw your paddle out of the way and use your arms for the rest of the work.



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