Elk Creek - Mt. Carmel Church (Route 650) to New River


Elk Creek,

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Mt. Carmel Church (Route 650) to New River

Usual Difficulty I-III (may vary with level)
Length 4.5 Miles

Slicer


Slicer
Photo of Elizabeth Gardner by Cathy Schwirzke taken 07/01/05 @ +7 inches

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
CHESTNUT CREEK AT GALAX, VA
usgs-03165000 200 - 3000 cfs I-III 01h06m 97 cfs (rc= -0.0 )


River Description

Virginia Whitewater, Roger Corbett; also Ed Grove

Tripp Culbreth shared:

Ran this July 31, 2005. Rt. 274 bridge gauge read + 7 inches.

We put in on Rte. 650 at a pullout just after some trailers along the river not far downstream of the questionable class VI rapids (which were not runnable at this low level mostly due to choked entrance into the first drop of this section and questionable shallow rocky landing zone on last drop).

Starts off as class II. First rapid of mention is a class III- at this level called Slicer. We entered right, caught an eddie on the right and moved right to left thru a chute that runs between a big rock in the middle of the creek and some manky rocks on the left which includes the slicer rock that was slightly covered at this level. Then just more class I/II stuff.

After passing Mt. Carmel Church the creek turns to the right leaving Rte. 650. Class II and III rapids are more frequent after leaving Rte. 650. Mostly small boulder gardens. There were some trees in some rapids but all were avoidable. Todd's Rapid was the next hardest in this section maybe class III- at this level. We entered from the right ducking some tree limbs to go over a 1+ foot ledge then eddied out behind a rock just in front of us. Then ran right to left thru a boney chute that had a tree in the outflow so we had to work right quickly.

The boulder gardens continue as class II/III- until you reach the last ledge. It is a ledge 2 feet high with three chutes; I ran the left, Elizabeth ran the right. The middle chute had a small tree in it. Then class I/II and flat water until you reach the New RIver. The takeout is a short distance down the New RIver on river left.

The section of class II/III- took 45 minutes. The class I/II and flat water took 45 minutes. Total trip:1hr 30min. Scenery was pretty until you left Rte. 650, then beautiful as you leave the last few houses/trailers/campsites. The guidebook Classic Virginia Rivers says that 0 inches on the Rte. 274 bridge gauge is minimum but +6 inches would be the lowest you could get down some of the shoals. An optimal level for intermediate paddlers would maybe be +1 ft. 6 in. but that is just a guess. This could get fun at even higher levels for advanced boaters especially if there is enough water to run the class VI rapids at the top of the run.


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Last Updated: 2009-03-26 06:41:12

Slicer

Detail Trip Report Edit  Slicer  Elk Creek, VA(86.48KB .jpeg)

In the river right eddie above Slicer

Detail Trip Report Edit  In the river right eddie above Slicer  Elk Creek, VA(80.48KB .jpeg)

Last Ledge

Detail Trip Report Edit  Last Ledge  Elk Creek, VA(723.98KB .jpeg)

Elk Creek boulder garden.

Detail Trip Report Edit  Elk Creek boulder garden.  Elk Creek, VA(683.36KB .jpeg)

Typical boulder garden on Elk Creek

Detail Trip Report Edit  Typical boulder garden on Elk Creek  Elk Creek, VA(688.30KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

Tripp Culbreth shared:

The guidebook Classic Virginia Rivers says that 0 inches on the Rte. 274 bridge gauge is minimum but +6 inches would be the lowest you could get down some of the shoals. An optimal level for intermediate paddlers would maybe be +1 ft. 6 in. but that is just a guess. This could get fun at even higher levels for advanced boaters especially if there is enough water to run the class VI rapids at the top of the run.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
CHESTNUT CREEK AT GALAX, VA
usgs-03165000 200 - 3000 cfs I-III 01h06m 97 cfs (rc= -0.0 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
200 -3000 cfs barely runnable-high runnable I-III Best boatable flows uncertain. Help us out. Add a comment.

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When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
4y183d00h05m Elk Creek [VA] Slicer +7 inches Tripp Culbreth

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User Comments


2009-06-16 02:01:51 (197 days ago)
You cannot gauge this run from the Chestnut Creek gauge. Two very different water sheds on opposite
sides of the New River. At least 1" of rain in 24 hours in Grayson County and it will probably be
good to go. Edit

2009-04-20 02:16:24 (254 days ago)
this Gem of a run was stolen from Robert W.! Edit

2008-06-16 04:17:28 (562 days ago)
Tripp CulbrethDetails
Ran this July 31, 2005. Rt. 274 bridge gauge read + 7inches We put in on Rt.650 at a pullout just
after some trailers along the river not far downstream of the questionable class VI rapid/s (which
were not runnable at this low level mostly due to choked entrance into the first drop of this
section and questionable shallow rocky landing zone on last drop). Starts off as class II. First
rapid of mention is a class III- at this level called Slicer. We entered right, caught an eddie on
the right and moved right to left thru a chute that runs between a big rock in the middle of the
creek and some manky rocks on the left which includes the slicer rock that was slightly covered at
this level. Then just more class I/II stuff. After passing Mt. Carmel Church the creek turns to the
right leaving Rt. 650. Class II and III rapids are more frequent after leaving Rt.650. Mostly small
boulder gardens. There were some trees in some rapids but all were avoidable. Todd's Rapid was the
next hardest in this section maybe class III- at this level. We entered from the right ducking some
tree limbs to go over a 1+ foot ledge then eddied out behind a rock just in front of us. Then ran
right to left thru a boney chute that had a tree in the outflow so we had to work right quickly.
The boulder gardens continue as class II/III- until you reach the last ledge. It is a ledge 2 feet
high with three chutes I ran the left, Elizabeth ran the right. The middle chute had a small tree
in it. Then class I/II and flat water until you reach the New RIver and the take out is a short
distance down the New RIver on river left. The section of class II/III- took 45 minutes. The class
I/II and flat water took 45 minutes. Total trip:1hr 30min. Scenery was pretty until you left Rt.
650, then is beautiful as you leave the last few houses/trailers/campsites. The guide book Classic
Virginia Rivers says that 0 inches on the Rt. 274 bridge gauge is minimum but +6 inches would be
the lowest you could get down some of the shoals. An optimal level for intermediate paddlers would
maybe be +1 ft. 6 in. but that is just a guess. This could get fun at even higher levels for
advanced boaters especially if there is enough water to run the class VI rapids at the top of the
run.

2000-11-09 21:04:17 (3337 days ago)
william gilbertDetails
Have not run this yet for the year but live not far and have went down and spent time there.There
is a section where there are large boulders (garden)!Lots of death traps that really need to be
scouted first.Not for the begginer! have a safe boating
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