Big Pine Creek - Rainsville to Twin Bridges (0.5-6.7 miles)


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Rainsville to Twin Bridges (0.5-6.7 miles)

Usual Difficulty II+(III) (may vary with level)
Length 6.7 Miles
Avg. Gradient 13 fpm
Max Gradient 39 fpm

IN, Big Pine, S-Curve


IN, Big Pine, S-Curve
Photo taken 1-9-2005 @ 1ft Rainsville bridg

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LITTLE PINE CREEK NEAR MONTMORENCI, IN
usgs-033356786 200 - 2000 cfs II-III(IV) 00h34m 13 cfs (rc= -1.1 )
NORTH FORK VERMILION RIVER NEAR BISMARCK, IL
usgs-03338780 1000 - 5000 cfs II-III(IV) 00h49m 490 cfs (rc= -0.2 )


River Description

In what most folks think of as the 'flatlands' in Indiana, northwest of Indianapolis, this run has considerable merit for its play potential and its scenery.

The run begins less than a mile southeast of Rainsville, where a gravel 'ford' (to cross thru the river at low water) exists. The creek is quite uniformly wide, and trips across a bedrock base in the next quarter-mile to create numerous playable waves. In general there is a lack of eddy service, so most features tend to be catch-on-the-fly, one-shot play, or a fight to regain, or a carry-up to re-play.

After the opening sequence, a few more playable waves (strung out a bit more than the first series) lead to S-curve. The river turns left, where it encounters a bedrock ledge extending at least halfway across the stream from river-right. At low water (under 2.5') the ledge will be dry, funneling all the water to the left, creating a playable wave/hole followed by good current through the large pool below, heading toward a wall of rock (the left bank) where it is diverted back to the right to proceed downstream. At high water (somewhere above 4'?) water will pour over the ledge on river right to create a potentially nasty, uniform hole. Beware!

The gradient then dies down for an extremely scenic float until the next features. The stream is regularly flanked on one or both sides by rocky bluffs (I believe mostly sandstone and shale). The presence of mostly deciduous trees make this an extraordinarily beautiful reach to paddle in fall.

Eventually one encounters a few more playable features in the lower stretch. The best of these are All Day Wave and Hawaii 5-0.

Many local boaters just do the initial 0.6 mile of river as a 'park-and-play', carrying up the country road which parallels this part of the river. However, the scenery of the rest of the run (especially if you catch it at fall colors), and the good eddy service for the playspots on the lower river make it worthwhile to do the full run.

In addition, at the take-out at Twin Bridge, a side stream (Fall Creek) flows through a Nature Conservancy preserve. It has cut a very interesting gorge filled with potholes in the bedrock, and makes an enjoyable side hike at the end of your trip.
Note: While it may appear tempting (if it has enough water) to carry up and boat this reach, be aware that all the best legal opinion suggests it is illegal to do so. There is a specific 'no swimming or wading' provision in force (subject to a fine, reportedly $90 per violation), as well as the fact that the stream is deemed "not navigable" according to state law.
For more information, check out the Natural Resources Commission - Navigability webpage.
Additional information about The Nature Conservancy, and this preserve, can be obtained at Nature.org, or by Email: Indiana@tnc.org.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2009-11-21 21:39:12

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William Crimmins
Greencastle, IN


IN, Big Pine, Surfin the S-curve

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IN, Big Pine, Side Surfin

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IN, Big Pine, Rocky ford flat spin

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IN, Big Pine, S-Curve

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The best indicator is to watch weather patterns, 'live' weather radar, and rainfall totals for the LaFayette, IN area. A boater's gauge is painted on the downstream end of the middle bridge pier in Rainsville. When there is rain there, the Hoosier Canoe Club Message Board has a board where actual readings of the painted gauge are posted. Some boaters report reasonable runs (and fun) at readings of 6" (usually skipping the first half-mile or so, which will be very boney). A reading of 1' gives a more enjoyable float trip with decent (tame) play possible. Two feet makes pretty good play, 3' is sweet. Above that is great, but gets pushy, and some of the features on the lower part of the run wash out (though some build to be very nice).

*The cited gauge is for the N.Fk.Vermilion in Illinois, which is the immediately adjacent watershed to the west of the Mud Pine / Big Pine. It is a relatively similar sized stream, and usually provides a pretty good indication of runnability here. Obviously, much will depend upon the track (and the overall width and size) of storms, so correlation is not assured. (I.E., cited gauge may imply river is too low when it may be runnable or vice versa.)

Boaters who frequent this reach have been reporting a pretty fair 'rule of thumb' is that each 1000cfs on the cited gauge equates to (roughly) a foot on the boaters gauge. Again, this correlation will not always be 100% 'on', but shouldn't be too far off most of the time.

Using this rule-of-thumb, the listed 'minimum' reflects this 6" level on the boater's gauge. While it is no doubt possible to float the stream less than this, it would be more of a bump-and-scrape swiftwater/flatwater trip than real whitewater.

The listed 'maximum' is only an indication of higher, pushier levels. Many boaters love these levels, and will look for this run to 'go purple'. In truth, with the requisite skill and knowledge of the river and the concerns any river in flood can pose, this reach should be boatable at virtually any high level.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LITTLE PINE CREEK NEAR MONTMORENCI, IN
usgs-033356786 200 - 2000 cfs II-III(IV) 00h34m 13 cfs (rc= -1.1 )
New gauge (2009.03.20) not calibrated above 165 cfs as of 2009.06.01; may be good reference once fully rated (though not looking good based on April/May data).
RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
0 - 100 cfs extremely Low-somewhat Low I Likely too low. (UNCONFIRMED)
100 - 200 cfs somewhat Low-barely Low I(II) Likely low, but possibly boatable. (UNCONFIRMED)
200 - 600 cfs barely runnable-perfect runnable II(III) Likely boatable. (UNCONFIRMED)
600 -2000 cfs perfect runnable-high runnable II(III) Likely high. (UNCONFIRMED)
2000 -9999 cfs barely High-extremely High II-III(IV) Unusually high flow. (UNCONFIRMED)
NORTH FORK VERMILION RIVER NEAR BISMARCK, IL
usgs-03338780 1000 - 5000 cfs II-III(IV) 00h49m 490 cfs (rc= -0.2 )
'Rule of thumb' is each 1000 cfs = ~1' on bridge gauge. (Not always accurate, but works fairly well.)
RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
0 - 200 cfs extremely Low-somewhat Low I Forget it. (Highly unlikely its running.)
200 -1000 cfs somewhat Low-barely Low I-II Likely low but playable (skip the first half-mile)
1000 -2000 cfs barely runnable-med runnable II(III) Likely good level (Check Hoosier message board for confirmation.)
2000 -3000 cfs med runnable-a bit pushy runnable II(III) Sweet level (Check Hoosier message board for confirmation.)
3000 -5000 cfs a bit pushy runnable-high runnable II(III) Could be awesome (Check Hoosier message board for confirmation.)
5000 -9999 cfs barely High-extremely High II-III(IV) Big water (Check Hoosier message board for confirmation.)

Report - Reports of Big Pine Creek Rainsville to Twin Bridges (0.5-6.7 miles) and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Big Pine Creek [IN] IN, Big Pine, Rocky ford flat spin n/a Craig Nyquist
Big Pine Creek [IN] IN, Big Pine, Side Surfin 3 ft Will Crimmins
4y317d10h32m Big Pine [IN] IN, Big Pine, S-Curve 1ft Rainsville bridg Craig Nyquist

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User Comments


2008-02-18 03:44:50 (642 days ago)
Craig NyquistDetails
The lower WW section of the Big Pine from the Harrison Bridge (Below the confluence of the Mud Pine
and Big Pine) to Twin Bridges, can be run at much lower levels than the Rocky Ford S-curve section.
Down to around 200cfs on the Vermillion gage. It offer some fun class 1 Rapids and ledges with good
easy surfing and is a very scenic paddle. In fact this section is excelent when the upper section
is getting too low to run. Around 0.5? on the Chuck Weis (Rainsville Bridge) gage.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.6S-CurveII+Playspot
3.5All Day WaveIIPlayspot
6.3Hawaii Five-OhPlayspot

Rapid Descriptions

S-Curve (Class II+, Mile 0.6)

At most levels, this is the biggest and best playable feature on the run. A bedrock ridge extends from the right shore. At low-to-moderate flows, it diverts all water into a couple good waves and a wave/hole. Downstream current pushes through a large eddy and heads into the river-left wall/bank. At higher flows, water will spill over the ledge, and may form a bigger wave/hole.



All Day Wave (Class II, Mile 3.5)

A bedrock ledge/intrusion creates a sweet wave here. Boaters exclaim "You could surf all day on this," hence the name.



Hawaii Five-Oh

At high water, this area contains some wild wonderful waves.





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