Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) - Babcock State Park to the confluence with Manns Creek


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Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary),

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Babcock State Park to the confluence with Manns Creek

Class V+
1.9 Miles

Final Boof Pilage & Plunder - Pete Iscaro


Final Boof Pilage & Plunder - Pete Iscaro
Photo of Pete Iscaro by John Petretich taken 3/2005 @ 2.5

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
MEADOW RIVER NEAR MT. LOOKOUT, WV 1500 - 3000 cfs 01h11m 263 cfs (rc= -0.8 )


River Description

Named Rapids include:
Gristmill Falls
Gladiator
Pillage & Plunder
Goliath

These rapids are above the second footbridge allowing an easy retreat if you find yourself in over your head. There is a road that is access to rental cabins that you can use to walk back to the parking lot.

Shortly afterwards you will hit the main stem of Manns Creek and continue down to the New River just across from Cunard. Standard takeout these days is at Keeneys creek. Makes for a reasonable shuttle.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2005-12-24 04:37:20

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Stream Team Editor
Bryan Tudor
Loveland, OH


Pillage and Plunder

Detail Trip Report Edit  Pillage and Plunder  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(35.28KB .jpeg)

Gristmill Falls

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gristmill Falls  Glade Creek, WV(225.05KB .bmp)

Ready for Battle

Detail Trip Report Edit  Ready for Battle  Glade Creek, WV(225.05KB .bmp)

Gristmill Falls

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gristmill Falls  Glade Creek, WV(225.05KB .bmp)

Gristmill Falls

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gristmill Falls  Glade Creek, WV(225.05KB .bmp)

Gladiator - Katie Buddenburg

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gladiator - Katie Buddenburg  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(38.91KB .jpeg)

Point of No Return - Pete Iscaro

Detail Trip Report Edit  Point of No Return - Pete Iscaro  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(35.52KB .jpeg)

Goliath 10' Boof From Upstream - Pete Iscaro

Detail Trip Report Edit  Goliath 10' Boof From Upstream - Pete Iscaro  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(41.96KB .jpeg)

Final Boof Pilage & Plunder - Pete Iscaro

Detail Trip Report Edit  Final Boof Pilage & Plunder - Pete Iscaro  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(45.40KB .jpeg)

Goliath 10' Boof - Pete Iscaro

Detail Trip Report Edit  Goliath 10' Boof - Pete Iscaro  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(37.37KB .jpeg)

Entering Lunatic Fringe - Peyton Love

Detail Trip Report Edit  Entering Lunatic Fringe - Peyton Love  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(49.79KB .jpeg)

Gristmill Freefall - Peyton Love

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gristmill Freefall - Peyton Love  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(41.17KB .jpeg)

Off Ramp - from upstream right

Detail Trip Report Edit  Off Ramp - from upstream right  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(34.96KB .jpeg)

Crack Entrance Boof - Peyton Love

Detail Trip Report Edit  Crack Entrance Boof - Peyton Love  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(59.29KB .jpeg)

Gladiator from downstream

Detail Trip Report Edit  Gladiator from downstream  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(37.52KB .jpeg)

Lunatic Fringe - Sam Hess

Detail Trip Report Edit  Lunatic Fringe - Sam Hess  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(34.43KB .jpeg)

Sieve at the Put In

Detail Trip Report Edit  Sieve at the Put In  Glade-Manns Creek, WV(49.44KB .jpeg)

On Ramp

Detail Trip Report Edit  On Ramp  Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary), WV(42.31KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

If the Meadow is running over 1500 cfs then Glade into Manns is probably running. There is a gauge at the putin on the left bank above the bridge above the Grist Mill. It is painted by a concrete structure about 50 yards upstream of the bridge. About January 2004 heavy rains made some significant riverbed changes to Manns creek. First off, the gauge is different (actually that changed a while back when the park people modified the gauge area). Zero is now more of a true ‘zero’, with 6 inches getting pushy and 12 inches being really high.

Some of the locals run it at ungodly high water!

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
MEADOW RIVER NEAR MT. LOOKOUT, WV
usgs-03190400 1500 - 3000 cfs 01h11m 263 cfs (rc= -0.8 )

RangeWater LevelComment
1500.0000-3000.0000 barely runnable-high runnable Upper limit for best boatability uncertain. Please help your fellow boaters with a comment or report.

Report - Reports of Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) Babcock State Park to the confluence with Manns Creek and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Gladiator from downstream 1 inch John Petretich
Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Point of No Return - Pete Iscaro 2.5 John Petretich
Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Gladiator - Katie Buddenburg 1.5" John Petretich
Glade Creek [WV] Gristmill Falls 2 inches Bryan Tudor
Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Pillage and Plunder n/a Matt Muir
167d09h05m MEADOW RIVER NEAR MT. LOOKOUT, WV [WV] Account of 05/26/09 470 cfs Ryan Groth
4y219d01h10m Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Off Ramp - from upstream right 3" John Petretich
4y219d01h10m Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Entering Lunatic Fringe - Peyton Love 3" John Petretich
5y118d01h10m Glade-Manns Creek [WV] Sieve at the Put In n/a John Petretich
5y361d01h10m Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] On Ramp 1" John Petretich
6y72d01h10m Glade Creek [WV] Ready for Battle 2 inches Bryan Tudor
6y269d01h10m Glade Creek (Manns Creek tributary) [WV] Lunatic Fringe - Sam Hess 1" John Petretich

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User Comments


2008-03-26 01:39:28 (593 days ago)
Just got off of a dawn patrol Mann's Run with Todd Richendollar, Justin Burd and Wisconsin John.
(Note: A dawn patrol Mann's run after a night at Charlies is a horrible idea) Great day, good
weather and good water, but LOTS of new wood. We'll try and run tomorrow with a chainsaw, but
there's some bad stuff...here's the skinny. 1) New logs across the top of "Pillage and Plunder" -
blocks the left and center lines at the top. Portage left (sucks) and put in to run the middle and
bottom. 2)Still a log right above "On-Ramp". Eddy out and Portage it on the right. 3) Big branch
blocking the left exit to "Crack". Boof the top, big left stroke on the landing, and the right exit
is good to go. 4) 1 Rapid below "Pick-a-slot", there's a tree in the exit. Easy to avoid...eddy out
right and ferry above it. 5) 2 Rapids below "Pick-a-slot" (directly after the one mentioned above)
there are 2 HORRIBLE logs that block the entire creek. This rapid involves starting on the left
side (going around and island basically) and working back right. The logs are in a blind spot, and
you CAN'T SEE THEM UNTIL YOU ARE ALREADY COMMITTED! There is a SMALL eddy directly on the left
above the logjam. Portage from there. There is also a smaller eddy on the right that works. This is
a horrible place for wood....lots of current, big logs...probably the ugliest wood I've ever seen
on Mann's. The nature of the situation would make it very hard to help a pinned boater....USE
CAUTION! 6) The second rapid below Liquid Drano has a log blocking the exit to the sweet boof in
the center. Run far right.... Hope that helps....Be careful out there! Brian Jennings Edit

2004-04-11 18:58:16 (2037 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
Just wanted to give an update on Manns Creek, West Virginia for the AW page:

MANNS CREEK HAS CHANGED (4/8/04)

About two months ago heavy rains made some significant riverbed changes to Manns creek. First off,
the gauge is different (actually that changed a while back when the park people modified the gauge
area). Zero is now more of a true 'zero', with 6 inches getting pushy and 12 inches being really
high.

If you run the creek now and have run it previously, you'll notice LOTS more little rocks in bad
places. Not that there aren't clean lines, just that they are different now and with smaller margin
for error. ON RAMP is now portaged at lower levels due to the water changing course and making the
normal line not so fun (usually a piton to flip into a pourover), but at higher levels (over 3
inches) you can run the nice boof on the right. YOUR NOT GONNA LIKE THIS ONE changed a while back
and now has a worse sieve, but is still run by some. DRANO is the most dramatically changed rapid
and even many of the locals portage on the right. It's still totally runnable, just worse
consequences if you mess up. There's some new wood, but nothing unavoidable. The creek still kicks
ass and is still one of my favorite local runs.

Updated 4/8/04 by Jimmy Blakeney (www.prokayaker.tv)

2003-09-26 02:55:57 (2236 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
From Nov. 2002

From Boatertalk:
For those who run Mann's Creek, the river left gauge has changed. They put a bunch of concrete in
around the gauge rock, but the gauge still works. We ran it the other day at +8 inches, which
seemed to us to be more like +3 inches on the 'old' gauge. Some other people ran it around 0 and
said that seemed more like -4. I'd say the gauge actually has changed for the better, with 0 being
more of an accurate 'low' level, and 8 inches (the top mark on the gauge) being more of a realistic
top end. Most first timers run it around -3 or 4, so now I'd say -1 or 0 would be good low
levels.
Jimmy Blakeney
www.prokayaker.tv

2003-09-26 02:46:11 (2236 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
A huge group ran Mann's the saturday of Gauley fest at +2 inches. Sept 20 2003. Probably the
biggest crowd Manns has ever seen.

2002-12-15 07:59:57 (2521 days ago)
Matt MuirDetails
From Boater Talk:
Date: Dec 15 2002, 01:18
From: jblakeney

Updates for those running Manns:
Level today (Dec14th) was +3.5 inches, a great level, comparable to around zero before the gauge
changed. Now zero is a more like a true zero, with -1 being about minimum.

Strainers:
Lunatic Fringe has several trees down across the whole creek just below the drop. You can see them
from river left set up eddy, but be careful if you run it. We've been running it but it is possible
to be pushed into the trees if you screw up.

You Ain't Gonna Like This has changed. We've been portaging it a lot, only running it when it's
higher due to a big sieve opening up (which someone pinned in very badly earlier this year).
Scout/walk river left.

A few other trees, but nothing too bad. You can read trip reports of the past three days on the
creek at
WWW.PROKAYAKER.TV, go to calendar.

Have fun!

Jimmy Blakeney
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0Grist Mill FallsIVPutin Waterfall Photo
0.1SpillwayIIIWaterfall Photo
0.6Gladiator5.0Photo
1.2Pillage and Plunder5.0
1.5Goliath5.0

Rapid Descriptions

Grist Mill Falls (Class IV)

Gristmill Falls

Gristmill Falls
Photo of Bryan Tudor by Kathryn Tudor taken Sept 20 2003 @ 2 inches

Some people put on below the falls because it can be tricky to run and eazy to get hurt. There is a very clear launch piont in the center of the falls. However what you don't see is the water pushes hard away from the launch pad and toward the left. This is where you don't want to be. There is sort of a V notch/crack in the lip of the drop that wants to flip you then spit you over the lip of the falls. The landing is not very deep.

Spillway (Class III, Mile 0.1)

Sieve at the Put In

Sieve at the Put In
Photo by John Petretich taken July 2004

After Grist Mill Falls there is a large pool that is formed by and old spillway. Eazy 10 ft boof. From here the creek goes down hill and fast!

Gladiator (Class 5.0, Mile 0.6)

Gladiator from downstream

Gladiator from downstream
Photo by John Petretich taken 4/2005 @ 1 inch

After some fast water you will come to a fast moving, small pool. Take out on the left to scout. This is a three part drop. The first is a 4 ft boof over a large hole into very airated water. Dig in hard to avoid a huge backender. after you pull away from the hole you will see a large curler going around a rock. Brace into it and ride that around. Next will be a horizon line. Boof left off of the 5 ft drop to catch the eddy at the bottom or straight and continue down hill.



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