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Little Pigeon, West Prong - 2. Chimneys Picnic Area to Campbell Overlook


Little Pigeon, West Prong,

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2. Chimneys Picnic Area to Campbell Overlook (Picnic)

Usual Difficulty V (may vary with level)
Length 2.5 Miles
Avg. Gradient 320 fpm
Max Gradient 380 fpm

Good stuff...


Good stuff...
Photo of Newton Tilson by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge



River Description

Picnic is no picnic.

This section, although not as steep as "Trailhead", still packs a punch and gives you more river miles. The West Prong is "one big rapid" in a sense where you find the channel with the most water in it and go with the flow. There are a few named rapids and places in the river to note.

First Island: Stay left here. Not much rapid wise, but this is where most of the water goes and it is usually free of trees.

Second Island: Much more complicated than the first island. Here you go right. The entrance is somewhat of a boil, but managable. There are several drops back to back, the biggest one involving a hard boof right, followed almost immediately by a boof on the left.

Boof Right/Cave: This drop is in the center of the river. Ride the rock, but don't stall or boof too hard right. Get to river left after the slot to avoid the mini-cave on river right.

Skywalker: Entering slightly center left/left is the prefered line for the top drop here, followed immediately by a big ole rock in center of the river. Go left of this rock. At higher water this drop can also be run on far river left through smaller drops.

West Prong Falls: Shortly after Skywalker is WPF. Several lines exist. Some take a far river right line that ends in a vertical 8-10 foot slot boof. Another line is to run center where the falls have more of a ledge look to them. Beware that there is a large rock just under the surface on the left side of the center line. Far river left should be avoided entirely.

Amtrack: The entrance to this rapid is quite long and ends with an exciting boof. The best lines are seen when boofing center to slightly center right. The drop is close to 8 feet and is followed by a river wide hole and several strange undercuts to be avoided. Luckily there is a large pool to gather your belongings below.

Room Without a View: Just around the corner from Amtrack is Room Without a View, the grandfather and climax of the West Prong "Picnic" rapids, and a tough one to have towards the end of the run. Enter through a slot on river left and hold on. You'll soon find the river running into a large boulder in the center of the river. Do not go left or you'll end up in a pin fest. Instead, go with the flow, towards the right, punch several holes and you're done. It's one big challenging s-turn of beauty.

Blue Angel: Shortly after Room Without a View you'll come upon a third island. You want to go right here, for it is Blue Angel, an 8-10 foot launch off of a boulder in the center of the river.

Bitch: As you turn the corner after Blue Angel you'll find yourself in a very long series of s-turns and slots. At the end of these is Bitch. The river-left side of the West Prong, just before the take out, goes into a sieve with many trees in it. Therefore, run the right side, also known as Bitch. It is probably the most dangerous rapid of the run because of it's high pinning possiblity.

The take out is just below this series of rapids, on river left that leads to a trail for Campbell Overlook.

However, you don't have to take out here if you're still up for a few more class IV's, solid class III and one BIG class V. The following rapid descriptions apply to what is being called section 3 of the West Prong, http://www.americanwhitewater.org/rivers/id/1761/.

However, the top part of this section 3 should be considered in the Picnic section, as, half of the time people don't take out at Campbell Overlook (especially with higher water levels), and two, there are big rapids yet to go that don't compair to the class II only from the Park Headquarters to Gatlinburg. With that being said...

Thors hammer: This rapid is not too far from the Campbell Overlook takeout. You'll find yourself hanging out on river left shortly before the drop, generally speaking, and when you begin to notice the river widening to the right, it's Thors Hammer. The river goes through many different slots with many different lines, all of them usually on the shallow side of life.

In a Hurry: This drop is as big as anything on the standard Picnic section. It's sort of like a longer Room Without a View but with In a Hurry mostly being straight on.

The take out, is close to a 1/2 mile below In a Hurry, the second walkway from the Vistors Center. You'll have gone through quite a bit of class II. The trail is easy to miss, so hike down from the takeout to make sure you know where to get out.

The West Prong, Trailhead and Picnic respectively, are very demanding runs and not to be taken lightly. It's best to go down with someone that knows the river. The rapids mentioned above are mostly class IV+ to V, meaning, there are no names for the scores of continuous class IV and III that you see. Trees are always an issue, so make sure you chat with local boaters before hand who know the latest hazards.

The best rain gages are at http://www.afws.net/data/tn/Sevier.htm The most important is ID 1543, Newfound Gap. The others are also important, but I have seen the West Prong run with only Newfound Gap showing significant rainfall. A good inch is needed during winter months. When the greenery starts, look for 2+ inches into the end of the year. Another rain gage can be found at http://www.lakeinfo.tva.gov/htbin/getprecip under Newfound Gap.

A stream gage is located on the AFWS site under gage ID 1599, HoJo Bridge. Located in Gatlinburg, it is useful, but with a slight delay. Meaning, if you got the proper rain totals don't wait for it to get to Gatlinburg, you might just lose the best water. Despite this, look for it to be at least 2 feet.


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Last Updated: 2008-03-07 18:27:17

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Boof Right/Cave

Detail Trip Report  Boof Right/Cave  West Prong - Lower, TN(64.42KB .jpeg)

Amtrak - LWP

Detail Trip Report  Amtrak - LWP  West Prong - Lower, TN(64.05KB .jpeg)

Bitch

Detail Trip Report  Bitch  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(105.28KB .jpeg)

Photo#17152

Detail Trip Report    Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(123.51KB .jpeg)

Room without a View

Detail Trip Report  Room without a View  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(123.51KB .jpeg)

Amtrack

Detail Trip Report  Amtrack  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(98.73KB .jpeg)

Falls

Detail Trip Report  Falls  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(176.56KB .jpeg)

Skywalker

Detail Trip Report  Skywalker  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(149.43KB .jpeg)

Second Island

Detail Trip Report  Second Island  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(107.82KB .jpeg)

A tough one.

Detail Trip Report  A tough one.  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(122.58KB .jpeg)

Tree dodging.

Detail Trip Report  Tree dodging.  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(102.66KB .jpeg)

First Island

Detail Trip Report  First Island  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(109.53KB .jpeg)

Good stuff...

Detail Trip Report  Good stuff...  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(92.94KB .jpeg)

Boof Right/Cave:

Detail Trip Report  Boof Right/Cave:  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(125.40KB .jpeg)

Fun drop on the West Prong

Detail Trip Report  Fun drop on the West Prong  West Prong, Picnic, TN(100.74KB .jpeg)

West Prong - Put-in bridge looking upstream

Detail Trip Report  West Prong - Put-in bridge looking upstream  West Prong Little Pigeon, TN(477.88KB .jpeg)

West Prong - From Put-in bridge looking downstream

Detail Trip Report  West Prong - From Put-in bridge looking downstream  West Prong Little Pigeon, TN(459.79KB .jpeg)

WEst Prong - From put-in bridge looking upstream

Detail Trip Report  WEst Prong - From put-in bridge looking upstream  West Prong Little Pigeon, TN(454.24KB .jpeg)

the scene on the west prong

Detail Trip Report  the scene on the west prong  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(281.29KB .jpeg)

Room w/o a View

Detail Trip Report  Room w/o a View  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(2.11MB .wmv)

Amtrak

Detail Trip Report  Amtrak  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(1.45MB .wmv)

West Prong

Detail Trip Report  West Prong  Little Pigeon, West Prong, TN(793.07KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:


Several rain gauges come in handy in determining the flow on the West Prong. The NOAA website has a great Newfound Gap rain gauge that is reliable, as often the afws gauges for Sevier County are down. It is found here.
During the winter months, you need at least a 1" reading, while in late spring through fall, look for readings of 2+ inches for flow.

The other quintessential rain gauge resource can be found at http://www.afws.net/data/tn/Sevier.htm.
This is updated every 15 minutes and is my bible! Pay special attention to gauge id's 1543 and 1547. It takes roughly six hours or slightly less for water to reach the trailhead from Newfound Gap.
A new experimental virtual gauge has been created to calculate the flow in the West Prong down in Sevierville. This isolates the flow to that only coming from the West Prong drainage. Though the lag time is 12-18 hours, this new gauge can help paddlers slowly gain a better understanding of how this new gauge responds to various levels on the whitewater stretch via the visual gauge at the picnic area.

PLEASE POST YOUR PICNIC VISUALS AND THE DATE AND TIME IN THE COMMENTS SECTION BELOW! The visual gauge is located on the US 441 bridge over the creek at Chimneys Picnic Area. It is located on the downstream side of the river left abutment of the bridge. The gauge changes frequently, so use your head.

Currently as of late 2006, 0.8 is pretty low, with 1-1.1 feet being nice and 1.3-1.5 being medium to medium high. Above 1.5 and you are on your own.

Report - Reports of Little Pigeon, West Prong 2. Chimneys Picnic Area to Campbell Overlook and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Little Pigeon, West Prong [TN] West Prong ? Chris Roberts
2y66d07h52m West Prong - Lower [TN] Boof Right/Cave .66 Geoff Kohl
3y266d16h52m West Prong, Picnic [TN] Fun drop on the West Prong 0.6 ft at bridge Alex Harvey
3y266d16h52m Little Pigeon, West Prong [TN] Bitch 0.6 @ bridge Alex Harvey
4y29d16h52m West Prong Little Pigeon [TN] West Prong - Put-in bridge looking upstream Not running Karl Whipp
4y302d16h52m Little Pigeon, West Prong [TN] the scene on the west prong 0.9 ft Matt Horton
5y337d16h52m Little Pigeon, West Prong [TN] Room w/o a View 1.5 ft Adam Griffin

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User Comments


2009-07-01 11:31:17 (259 days ago)
Mark SingletonDetails
Park Dispatch Office number (865) 436-1230 See BoaterTalk post:
http://www.boatertalk.com/forum/BoaterTalk/1659925 June 25, 2009 - If you didn't catch it, an
overturned kayak was found just outside of the Smokies on the MP of the Little Pigeon. It spurred a
search and rescue scenario that was serious enough for it to be reported to local TV stations. Not
sure of the outcome and I hope everyone is OK. But this did raise a very significant question. Who
do we notify when we a boat gets pinned or gets out of our control in the Smokies and darkness or
other circumstances force us to abandon it for any period of time? My friend Russell asked this
question and this was his post on a local paddling list serve. I asked the GSMNP folks what would
be the best way to report a lost boat.Here is their reply: Hello, If there is a report of an
accident or missing person, the park responds and/or conducts a search, but just finding an empty
kayak in the water would not necessarily result in a full-fledged search and rescue effort as the
town of Pittman Center launched during the recent incident. If one of your club members loses a
boat, but is otherwise okay, please call the park's Dispatch Office at (865) 436-1230 to let them
know that an empty boat may be found and it is not an emergency situation. This is a non-emergency
line which is staffed from 6:00 a.m. - midnight, but if a serious accident or other emergency has
occurred in the park, sometimes all available dispatchers have to concentrate on radio
communications among responding units and don't answer the line. If there is an accident with a
serious injury or a member of your party is known to be missing, please call 911. Best regards,C.
BloomGreat Smoky Mountains National Park

2004-03-08 15:25:25 (2200 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
From Boatertalk:
Forum: BoaterTalk
Re: Altitude confirmation needed. Attn Bradley LVM New
Date: Mar 08 2004, 14:23 GMT
From: deluge

Road prong is 1100ft (1.9 miles) from putin 1/4 mile above greenlight falls. If you go from here
and do west prong all the way down to last take out (below in a hurry) that is just about 3000 feet
of drop with no portages (unless you want). If you did road prong from third bridge it is .6 miles
and about 300-350 feet. upper west prong is 700 feet (1.7 miles) from foot bridge to 441 bridge.
441 brige to last take out is 3.3-3.5 miles and a little over 1100 feet. Campbell over is a mile
less.- howard
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.2Top of 1st IslandIVPhoto
0.3First IslandIV+Hazard Photo
0.4?IV+Photo
0.6Second Island5.0Photo
0.8Boof Right/Cave:IV+Photo
1.1Skywalker5.0Photo
1.2West Prong FallsIV+Photo
1.5AmtrakIV+Photo
1.8Room Without a View5.0Photo
2.2Bitch5.0Photo

Rapid Descriptions

Top of 1st Island (Class IV, Mile 0.2)

First Island

First Island
Photo of Ike by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge


First Island (Class IV+, Mile 0.3)

Tree dodging.

Tree dodging.
Photo of Doug Benton by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge

Watch out for these overhanging trees as of 6/25/06, they caused much adversity.

? (Class IV+, Mile 0.4)

A tough one.

A tough one.
Photo of Ligon by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge

Watch out for this difficult rapid early in the run.

Second Island (Class 5.0, Mile 0.6)

Second Island

Second Island
Photo by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge


Boof Right/Cave: (Class IV+, Mile 0.8)

Boof Right/Cave:

Boof Right/Cave:
Photo of Ike Roy by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge

Approx. 6 foot drop. Usually run by starting on river left or middle of lead-in boogie water and moving strong right, with a hard boof to the right as photo shows. Lands next to a big rock that extends up into center of river as a pinch rock that makes you do this far right boof. This rapid is why elbow pads exist.

Skywalker (Class 5.0, Mile 1.1)

Skywalker

Skywalker
Photo of Ligon by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge


West Prong Falls (Class IV+, Mile 1.2)

Falls

Falls
Photo of Doug Benton by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge


Amtrak (Class IV+, Mile 1.5)

Amtrack

Amtrack
Photo of Ike Roy by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge

approx. 7 foot drop, long class III+ lead-in; easy to stumble into. right side boulder is undercut, collects some wood.

Room Without a View (Class 5.0, Mile 1.8)

Room without a View

Room without a View
Photo of Ike Roy by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge


Bitch (Class 5.0, Mile 2.2)

Bitch

Bitch
Photo of Ike Roy by AJH taken 06/25/06 @ 0.6 @ bridge




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