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Chattahoochee - 3 - Upper Hooch - GA Route 115 to Duncan Bridge Road


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3 - Upper Hooch - GA Route 115 to Duncan Bridge Road (Upper Hooch)

Class II-III
4 Miles
Avg Gradient 25 fpm

Third Ledge, Upper Hooch


Third Ledge, Upper Hooch
Photo of Will Reeves and Clint Rienhart by Will Reeves

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER NEAR CORNELIA, GA 300 - 15000 cfs 00h15m 820 cfs (rc= 0.0 )


River Description

The USGS online gauge is located near the take-out bridge. The Soquee River comes in above the take-out and can affect the readings of the online gauge.


The first reading below is cfs, then the on-line Cornelia gauge above.

200 cfs / <.7 / 1.6 - It's a hike - Don't go. Some would add a few tenths before going. Sehlinger & Otey actually say .8 is minimum per the 2nd reading
480 cfs / 1.1 / 2.0 - Low but still fun - You have to search for surf spots.
980 cfs / 1.7 / 2.5 - Good level for most. Surfing begins to get good.
1500 cfs / 2.3 / 3.0 - Lots of fun, but more challenging - This can be tricky for those with less skill/experience and used to lower levels.
2800 cfs / 3.5 / 4.0+ Carnage abounds (for beginners) - I've seen some serious rescues at this level, but it's still a class 3-4 run. This level only occurs after a hard sustained rain.

The Hooch occasionally goes higher, 11.58 in July '03 and 15.72 feet in Sept '04.



As of August 2001, 200 cfs at the take-out was equal to about 1.2 feet at the put-in.

There used to be a USGS gauge about 100 feet upstream of the put-in on river left, but it was blown out in a flood a few years back and was not replaced. This was the gauge that most of the existing guidebooks referred to.

RIVER DESCRIPTION
The Upper Hooch is a classic beginner canoeing and kayaking stream. Its relatively short, has an easy shuttle, decent scenery and fun rapids. It can be run at just about all levels from ridiculously scrapy to screaming high flood stage, depending on the boaters skills of course. At low flows its a class two stream. Around 1500 to 2500 cfs its easy class 3. Above that its class 3/4 with some huge holes.

Once upon a time during the winter of '96-97 a group of us ran the Upper Hooch at 13 feet (about 14,500 cfs). Lots of moving strainers. Two massive holes in First Island rapid that were of equal size to the top holes in Insignificant on the Gauley. The rock outcrop on the right at second ledge was a giant pourover. Third ledge was washed out. We ran it twice before the Hall and White County rescue squads closed down the river. Probably a good thing--three other groups put on and hiked/swam off. Lots of canoes wrapped around trees that day.



Parking Info: The land at the put-in and take-out is owned by Wildwood Outfitters. During the summer they usually charge $3 to park. For $5 you get parking and they run the shuttle for you. The outpost is usually closed during the winter.

Directions:
From Atlanta, go north on I-85 16 miles to I-985. Continue 42 miles up I-985. Then take a left at Duncan Bridge Road, GA 384 at the light. The take-out is about 4 miles down Duncan Bridge Rd.

To get to the put-in, continue west on Duncan Bridge Rd, take a right on GA 254, and another right on GA 115. The put-in will be the first stream you come to. Parking is very limited at the put-in.
Whitewater Home Companion Vol. 1, William Nealy
Appalachian Whitewater : The Southern States


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Last Updated: 2006-01-13 23:41:53

Third Ledge, Upper Hooch

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Lunch Beach Wave

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Horseshoe @ 2000 cfs

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First Ledge- Chattohoochee

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Horse Shoe rapid

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First ledge squirt

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Seal Launch at the Hooch

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Third Ledge

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Canoe striding

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Third Ledge

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First Ledge

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Third Ledge

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Greg Simpson on the hooch

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Greg Simpson on upper hooch

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The USGS online gauge is located near the take-out bridge. The Soquee River comes in above the take-out and can affect the readings of the online gauge.


The first reading below is cfs, then the on-line Cornelia gauge above.

200 cfs / <.7 / 1.6 - It's a hike - Don't go. Some would add a few tenths before going. Sehlinger & Otey actually say .8 is minimum per the 2nd reading
480 cfs / 1.1 / 2.0 - Low but still fun - You have to search for surf spots.
980 cfs / 1.7 / 2.5 - Good level for most. Surfing begins to get good.
1500 cfs / 2.3 / 3.0 - Lots of fun, but more challenging - This can be tricky for those with less skill/experience and used to lower levels.
2800 cfs / 3.5 / 4.0+ Carnage abounds (for beginners) - I've seen some serious rescues at this level, but it's still a class 3-4 run. This level only occurs after a hard sustained rain.

The Hooch occasionally goes higher, 11.58 in July '03 and 15.72 feet in Sept '04.



As of August 2001, 200 cfs at the take-out was equal to about 1.2 feet at the put-in.

There used to be a USGS gauge about 100 feet upstream of the put-in on river left, but it was blown out in a flood a few years back and was not replaced. This was the gauge that most of the existing guidebooks referred to.

Gauge Information

Name Range Updated Level
CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER NEAR CORNELIA, GA
usgs-02331600 300 - 15000 cfs 00h15m 820 cfs (rc= 0.0 )

RangeWater LevelComment
300.0000-15000.0000 barely runnable-high runnable

Report - Reports of Chattahoochee 3 - Upper Hooch - GA Route 115 to Duncan Bridge Road and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Chattahoochee [GA] Small low G simpson
Chattahoochee [GA] Greg Simpson on the hooch n/a G simpson
Chattahoochee [GA] Third Ledge 750 Darien Fawkes
Chattahoochee [GA] Third Ledge medium will reeves
Chattahooche [Ga] Seal Launch at the Hooch ~2000 cfs Chris Gorman
Chattahooche [Ga] First ledge squirt ~2000 cfs Chris Gorman
Chattahooche [Ga] Horse Shoe rapid ~2000 cfs Chris Gorman
Chattahoochee - 3 [GA] Third Ledge, Upper Hooch n/a Brad Roberts
4y136d13h00m Chattahoochee [GA] Third Ledge 1.5ft Darien Fawkes
4y305d13h00m Chattahoochee [GA] Canoe striding 1.7 will reeves
5y184d13h00m Chattahoochee [GA] Greg Simpson on upper hooch 340cfs (low) G simpson
6y240d13h00m Upper Chattahoochee [GA] Horseshoe @ 2000 cfs 2000 cfs Brad Roberts
7y209d13h00m Upper Hooch [Ga] Lunch Beach Wave 2000 cfs Brad Roberts

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Whitewater Home Companion Southeastern Rivers, Vol 1
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Canoeing & Kayaking Georgia
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User Comments


2009-11-03 10:03:42 (5 days ago)
Don't want to jinx it, but the river seems to have actually stabilized for the first time in ten
years. It hasn't really rained in a week and we ran it Nov. 3 at probably 1,200 cfs or so. Great
fall so far. Edit

2009-09-20 03:17:27 (50 days ago)
gary debacherDetails
The Cornelia gauge is malfunctioning at high levels, reporting 363 cfs when the actual level is
thousands higher. Watch for gauge malfunction at high levels in the future. Can be identified by
wild jumps up and down on the gauge graph.

2009-08-19 01:25:21 (82 days ago)
Lenny GalleDetails
This river is fun, but it has to be up at above 350cfs and at that level it is still boney. I
personally like 3rd ledge. All in all if you swim keep your feet up. There are tons of strange
rocks like a washboard in the river.

2009-06-05 04:19:15 (156 days ago)
Front page should reflect that Wildwood now charges $3 for parking or $7 for parking and shuttle,
not $5. My junk should reflect it's been through a serious drubbing, and there was no fee. Edit

2008-08-27 01:13:39 (439 days ago)
Going on friday 29 of august after huricane fay came through 2,851 cfs fun run do this after a rain
. would of been fun if not halfway throu 3 men were gettin gay with each other don't mind lifestyle
just don't think apropriate. otherwise suggest you be careful if you are intermediate. Edit

2008-07-30 10:04:41 (466 days ago)
did this section yesterday still a little low 1.0 ft.(400)cfs a fun little run no no real hazards.
Almost broke a semi chubby. Chris Edit

2008-07-10 06:36:24 (486 days ago)
The tree branch stuck in the middle of 3rd ledge seems to have worked its way out. I guess you
could say it "broke wood" as did I. I paddled the Hooch last weekend and didn't see it. BONERS Edit

2008-06-16 10:41:14 (510 days ago)
did this section yesterday at 234 cfs(.65) too low don't go unless you like to do alot of hand
walking (I do, particularly my right hand) but still a few fun spots when your not hand walking the
lap rocket. Chris Edit

2008-05-22 10:59:01 (535 days ago)
did this section yesterday which was 5/21/2008 did myself as well although i was a little scrappy
with myself still fun no real hazards just stay mainly to the left side during the cock fight Edit

2008-03-20 03:23:06 (599 days ago)
Lee BruceDetails
There is a gauge that is online now that is right at the 115 bridge. This is a better gauge to go
by because the Duncan Bridge gauge includes a small river that comes in below Horseshoe. It's
called the Leaf gauge,
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00065=on&cb_00045=on&format=gif_default&period=7&site_no=02331000
I'm not sure of the correlation between the Leaf gauge and the Duncan Bridge gauge. I think the
Leaf gauge is generally a foot higher.

2007-12-30 10:57:15 (679 days ago)
alex brantleyDetails
actually, the best hole on this run is maybe 50 yards from the put-in, to my knowlage it doesn't
have a name. At flows around 900cfs or so, it is deep enough to loop with a small boat, i could
loop in my jackson star which is 5'8'', you just have to find the sweet spot in it, other than that
its great for cartwheels or whatever, plus its still there at low levels, but only as an ender
hole. It's great for a park and play.

2003-06-16 00:59:25 (2338 days ago)
Brad RobertsDetails
1000 cfs - not much play. Not to scrappy. None of the waves are formed, and none of the holes (what
holes?) will hold you. 1000 is my personal minimum for this run. The hole just past the takeout
bridge was OK at this level.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
1.0Buck Island ShoalsIII+Playspot
1.2Canoe Eating RockII+Hazard Photo
1.5First LedgeII+Hazard Photo
1.6Second LedgeII+Photo
1.8Third LedgeIIIPlayspot Photo
1.9WashboardII+Playspot
2.1False HorseshoeII
2.5HorseshoeIIIPlayspot Photo
3.0Shoals below horseshoeII+
4.0Take-out
4.1One more for the road.II+

Rapid Descriptions

Buck Island Shoals (Class III+, Mile 1.0)
Multiple routes on both sides of the island. Big holes develop on the right side of the island at high water. At lower flows most people run the narrow channel on the left of the island.

Canoe Eating Rock (Class II+, Mile 1.2)

Lunch Beach Wave

Lunch Beach Wave
Photo by Brad Roberts taken April 9 2002 @ 2000 cfs

Rock on river right above the Lunch Beach. Good surf wave with a huge eddy on the bottom right.

First Ledge (Class II+, Mile 1.5)

First Ledge- Chattohoochee

First Ledge- Chattohoochee
Photo of Doug Fletcher by Chris Gorman taken Early December 02 @ ~2000 cfs

At flows above 2500 cfs or over about 4 feet a dangerous low head dam type hole forms on the right side of this rapid. This one is easy to see coming due to the long pool above it and the large rock outcrop on river right. Run left or right at most water levels.

Second Ledge (Class II+, Mile 1.6)

Second Ledge

Second Ledge
Photo of Barbara Reeves by Amanda Loftis taken 14 May 2006 @ 1.15

Generally run on river left.

Third Ledge (Class III, Mile 1.8)

Third Ledge

Third Ledge
Photo of Jimmy Lowe (xstreamkayaking.com) by Greg Simpson taken June 04 @ 750

Fun, shallow side surfing hole.

Washboard (Class II+, Mile 1.9)
Another long wide shoal rapid. At higher flows there is great surfing everywhere in this one!

False Horseshoe (Class II, Mile 2.1)
A long riverwide shoal, with a sandy beach at the bottom on river left. Lots of fun small waves and holes thru the shoals.

Horseshoe (Class III, Mile 2.5)

Horseshoe @ 2000 cfs

Horseshoe @ 2000 cfs
Photo of Brad Roberts taken March 2003 @ 2000 cfs

Run left to right. Big pool at the bottom.

Shoals below horseshoe (Class II+, Mile 3.0)
long fun shoal rapids with some good surfing opportunities.

One more for the road. (Class II+, Mile 4.1)
Just downstream of the takeout, below the bridge, is one last ledge. There are a series of holes on the right, and a wave on the left. At low flows there is an island in the middle. Play your brains out, then paddle back up the 100 yards to the take-out.



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