2. Green Narrows(Big Hungry Creek to Fishtop Access) Class IV-V+
2.9 Miles
Avg Gradient 178 fpm
Max Gradient 342 fpm
River Description
The Green Narrows is the southeast's most famous steep creek. It epitomizes a low-volume, boulder congested, pool-drop character, with a couple of slides thrown in for good measure. Unique in the fact it is dam released and runs nearly 300 days per year, it still retains the feel of a wilderness creek due to the depth and inaccessibility of the gorge, the decent water quality and fabulous landscaping, and the .6 mile walk downhill with your boat to get to the put-in.
Click the "Flow Info" tab at the top of this page for a discussion about levels and releases.
May 16th, 2008 -- The End of an Era. The standard telephone number is no longer in service. You must call the toll-free (800) 829-5253 number and go through prompts 3-2-1 for the message. And the message is no longer from Frank and Associates, but a computer generated recording made at Duke Energy headquarters somewhere. At the moment, the release levels are not included in the message (only the times), but this is being worked on. Operational schedules are not even mentioned....
Although running the Green is staple food ---a happy meal--- for regulars just trying to shut out the noise and stay safe, it is also the daily training ground for many of the country's elite creekboaters, and the annual Green Race is a most revered and hotly contested affair. Held at high noon on the first Saturday in November since 1996, it draws huge crowds and even a grilled cheese sandwich and/or hot burrito sales program. Another more recent event, Jerry's Baddle, a paddling & bicycling biathlon fundraiser held each Spring, is now in its third year and hugely successful as well. Both events have a homegrown, homemade kind of feeling, and reflect the strong and diverse community that has built up around the Green. You hear it all the time: "...man, I LOVE the Green".
The Narrows is wholly located within the Green River Gamelands, a rugged tract of more than 10,000 acres along the Green River in Henderson and Polk Counties. Owned by the people of the State of North Carolina, the primary purpose of the Gamelands remains wildlife conservation and management. The 16 miles of trails are for foot travel only. River otters, bears, deer, snakes, turtles, fish, and all manor of birds share this beautiful place. Click the "Rapids" tab at the top of this page for descriptions and pictures of all the Green's famous drops. In that section, several alternate pictures are shown and different lines are described, yet no attempt has been made to describe everything. There are "race lines", "200% lines", several hazards left unmentioned, and a myriad of little cul de sacs made for good or ill. More detail and better pictures will come with time. Feel free to find me and pass along any suggestions you care to....it's a work in progress. --- John Pilson (12/6/07)
Current Parking Situation as of March 31, 2008
The Green Key Way: ...In order to access the Narrows by parking at the end of Gallimore Road, you need to use a gated and locked parking lot which is rented by the Green River Access Fund. Keys for the "Gallimore Creek Access Area" (the parking lot) cost $60 each or $45 for people who turn in last year's key, and are available daily at Liquid Logic, (828) 698-5456, or through the mail at: Green River Access Fund, 1437 Dana Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28792 The keys run annually, with the normal program being from March to March. 2008 keys will be required starting April 1st. Keys are also available at Green River Adventures, the new outfitter near the top of the road at Fishtop. This year the $45 option is also available at GRA. (828) 749-2800 for more information. Current hours: M-F 10-5, Sat./Sun. 9-5. Use of this lot is for keyholders only, and is self-policing. There are NO other parking spots at the end of Gallimore Road, save for two that are reserved explicitly for hunters and fishermen across from the lot. You are subject to ticketing and towing if you park there as a boater. At this point, there is no visitor parking, and no "put the $5 in the mailbox" day-use honor program that existed in the past. It didn't work. Woody Callaway at Liquid Logic is the leaseholder, paying the rent, not making a dime, and all Green boaters who plan to access the river at this point by using the lot need to pony up the funds to support the continuing use of it. Cheap entertainment. Keyholders are reminded to lock the gate behind them each and every time they come and go, and to not let in people without keys. Until a more permanent -- and owned -- lot is found that allows us to park and walk down the public trail to the put-in, then this is the deal we got. People are working on better options all the time. Key purchases and other donations are tax deductible. The No Key Way: ...If you don't paddle the Narrows enough to warrant buying a key, and you are not getting dropped off at the end of the road and parking back up on Big Hungry (apparently legal), then you must paddle the Upper Green first to access the Narrows.
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Just hit #2 on your speed dial.... or call (828) 698-2068 to hear a daily recording from the Tuxedo Hydro Plant --- usually out by 7:30 a.m. and sometimes updated for the next day as well. Releases are shown and historically tracked on the Green River Flows Page, with the options being 60%, 100%, and 200%. The standard 100% release delivers about 216 cfs of water into the gorge below the hydro plant --- which you will wait 2 1/2 hours for, and 4 Megawatts of electricity to the people of North Carolina --- instantly.
You can also use the toll free number: (800) 829-5253. There's a menu to the message, use 1-4-2, and that delivers the same recording as the direct dial.
| Season | Release | Level | Comments |
| Summer | 60% | 1.5-3" | highly suboptimal |
| Winter | 60% | 4.5-5" | the bare minimum |
| Summer | 100% | 7" | normal minimum |
| Winter | 100% | 8.5-9" | happy dogs |
| Summer | 200% | 14" | good dogs |
| Winter | 200% | 16"+ | bigger dogs |
The Gauge: Installed in 2005, and located a couple of minor rapids below the confluence with Big Hungry, there is a stick gauge affixed to a rock on your right. This gauge supplants the well-known "gauge rock" which was pushed out of the way by the hurricanes and high water in the Fall of 2004. Recent rains will add to the flow from a series of small tributaries, with the lion's share coming from Big Hungry Creek. You can check the local rainfall for Henderson County (Gauge #1841, Dana, being the closest). Also, be aware of lake levels and their impact. Attempts are made to keep Winter levels around 95' and Summer levels around 98', with levels over 100' indicating water flowing over the top of the dam. Understanding lake levels and trends can help with the risky business of predicting releases ahead of time. By following the lake level time stamps reported on the Green River Flows Page, one can see the lake drop during the day or overnight, and bets can be placed accordingly if they fail to update the phone message. A 100% 7a.m. - 3p.m. release can drop the lake .3 -.5 feet.
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2002-12-07 01:31:42 (2132 days ago)
Brad Roberts
Heres a link to lelands write up of the first green race.
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http://www.americanwhitewater.org/oldawa/awa/journal/j0397/greenriv.htm
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| Mile | Rapid Name | Class | Features (Legend) |
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| 0.5 | Bride of Frankenstein | IV | |
| 0.5 | Frankenstein | 5.0 | |
| 0.6 | Pincushion | IV | |
| 0.6 | Whale Tail | III+ | |
| 0.7 | Boof or Consequences | IV+ | |
| 0.7 | The Squeeze | IV+ | |
| 0.7 | Go Left and Die | 5.1 | |
| 0.8 | Reverse Seven Foot | IV | |
| 0.8 | Zwick's Backender | 5.0 | |
| 0.8 | Chief | 5.0 | |
| 0.8 | Gorilla/Pencil Sharpener | IV+ | |
| 0.9 | Gorilla/The Notch | 5.0 | |
| 0.9 | Gorilla/The Flume | 5.2 | |
| 0.9 | Gorilla/Scream Machine | 5.0 | |
| 0.9 | Gorilla/Nies' Pieces | 5.0 | |
| 1.0 | Power Slide | 5.0 | |
| 1.0 | Rapid Transit | 5.0 | |
| 1.1 | Nutcracker | ||
| 1.1 | Groove Tube | 5.0 | |
| 1.1 | Sunshine | 5.2 | |
| 2.4 | Toilet Bowl | IV | |
| 2.5 | Hammer Factor | 5.0 |
After putting in 100 yards above the confluence with Big Hungry Creek, there's an easy half-mile plus of class II-III warm-up.
Then the walls close in......the bottom drops out......and the fun begins. Check out a gradient chart of the Narrows for an idea of where this gravity sport is about to take you.
Enter Bride by going either just left of the right flake, or going left of that flake and the rock to its left from the start. After the first drop of about four feet, proceed down toward the second drop, a smaller pourover which makes for a good playspot. Use some good left-hand angle and momentum going off the top drop so you don't end up in the undercut on the right.
After the short stretch of Class IV, you come to the next drop, Pincushion, a four foot drop with a blind entrance flowing into a pointy rock below and left of center. Enter the top slot on the left, line up and go right around the rock at the bottom. An alternate line is to take the bottom entrance and run to the left around the pincushion rock, but this requires more a bit more water than a low summer release to run clean.
Below Pincushion is a two-drop Class III+ rapid with multiple routes available.
The main line is to stay with the flow leading in, wiggle through the curvy entrance, then bank right for the first drop. Bank back left, engage the submerged rock "just so" while angling right and you're clear for the bottom drop without getting pushed too far left or right (into an undercut or pin potential, respectively). The "back door" entrance to the main line is sometimes done by people to get a better handle on the main drop if they haven't done it much.
For Boofer's sneak on the right, eddy out at the top and look for the slot just to the right of the midstream boulder. The line involves sliding through the narrow slot, dropping about six feet and dodging an undercut. Re-enter the main flow for the final drop, and eddy bottom right.
May 12th, 2008 -- New wood. Details main page.
Squeeze is the name for the Go Left Sneak. From the eddy below Boof, hit the first drop going right, squeeze through the narrow slot and then pencilling down four feet into a little pool. Cruise down the final slide of about ten feet where you'll need to head left to hit most of the flow and avoid a glorified seal launch --- especially at low summer flows (not a problem at this spooky level).
After the pool below Squeeze and Go Left, there is a fabulous little left-hand boof on the right-hand side of the main flow out.
And....right about here...."Welcome to Polk County".
Pencil Sharpener is the top drop of Gorilla. Many people run far right here, down a small slot that drops about eight feet. Others run a race line off the center or the double-drop "Flying Squirrel" on river left. Eddy out right or left to get ready for the next drop...The Notch! You can see the "Birthday Eddy" in the left foreground of this picture. Like many rapids, Pencil Sharpener can be sobering to look at with no water.
The Notch is by far the toughest part of Gorilla. Although the flume is photogenic, The Notch is the crux move of the rapid. Here, the entire river drops through a four foot-wide slot with a big undercut ("the garage") on the right, a boiling eddyline and the main drop of Gorilla ten feet below. Catch the river right eddy and set up for the main drop. The consequence of this move is Gorilla, so don't flip or swim here like one prominent local boater captured on another prominent local boater's homemade Green video. For some perspective, check out this great view of The Notch from river right, and this one of a hand paddler.
Talked about, dreamt about, feared, respected, loved, and well-known the world over, Gorilla is a signature rapid like perhaps no other. And this Monkey raises the bar.
Many great pictures from interesting angles can be found in the thumbnails at the bottom of this page and elsewhere on the web such as this best ever video clip from LVM. The main drop of Gorilla is sometimes called "the flume." From the river right eddy in the Notch, peel out and not too many strokes later you'll be in the breaking wave and off the main drop and into the Speed Trap. Aim to be about two or three feet away from the river left wall for best results at Gorilla. Although the flume itself isn't a 5.2, the entire rapid, from Pencil Sharpener through Speed Trap certainly merits it. Over about 10", watch out for the Speed Trap. The flume gets easier and the Speed Trap gets tougher.
After landing Gorilla, it's not all fun and games until you get to the speed trap, as (1) you can't see, and (2) the "face breaker" protruding rock is 3/4 of the way through the run-out on your left if you're upside down. People huck themselves off the Monkey all the time, but the chances of something going wrong here are very real.
If you're walking the Monkey, you can re-enter our beautiful Rio Verde via an epic seal launch, sliding at a good clip down 30 feet of bedrock and dropping 6 feet back to the water-world just below the Speed Trap. Don't forget a boof stroke at the lip.....you're landing in about 6 inches of water, with Scream Machine immediately to your left. Above about 12" on the gauge it becomes increasingly difficult to get right enough to avoid the hole in Scream Machine, so some people will pass on the seal launch and continue walking to the bottom of Nies' Pieces.
In a way the first of the slides, Scream Machine is a ten-foot drop below Gorilla. You'll want to ferry to the right at the top, but the current will blow you left, and you can end up right in the sweet spot in the middle-left. At levels above 11-12", the hole at the bottom left gets pretty beefy. If you catch the little eddy at the bottom right, look up and see a great hemlock growing right out of the rock wall. But you wouldn't have time at this level.
Here's a great shot from behind the paddler during the 2007 Green Race.
At the top left of Scream Machine is a tricky little pot hole called the "Rock Star Eddy".
For a minor discussion about the trees in the picture on the right, go here.
The final drop in the Gorilla sequence, run it either to the left side or right side of the big and slanted mid-stream boulder below Sceam Machine. It consists of a double drop/slide on the left, or a big single drop on the right with a tricky boof (and a grabby hole at higher water). Probably more than half the people run left at Nies', with a bit of right angle to avoid the wall at the bottom -- and it can turn into mayhem during the Head-to-Head portion of the Green Race. If you run right, you "can't get far enough" up against the right hand wall for the boof.
Both sides of Nies' Pieces are shown in the background of this photo, and here is a good look at the river left side with no water.
Power Slide is a fun 30-foot slide with a really large hole at the bottom. Run center to center-right here at normal flows, breaking through a curler before turning left and down. Get further right here at higher water, and at even higher water, YOU make the call...
Also, there's a nice hero eddy at the top left of Power Slide. It's easier to get into smoothly than out of smoothly.
A couple of short pools later comes Rapid Transit. Rapid Transit is the final and largest slide, but consists of broken ledges, a wall on the right, and a large undercut on the left if you drop off early over there. Enter center down a shallow tongue of green water and punch the diagonal curler at the top, avoid the crack along the wall on the right, and slide down either a bit left or right of center...having a fun, bouncy, kidney-bruising and boat-cracking experience, or something more sensible....depending.
The left line: dropping off the left side of the mid-slide fist rock pointing about 10 o'clock left, facing nearly square-on the overhanging boulder before boofing right, can lead to a super-smooth line some are calling "Subprime Loan", but it is a little tricksy and not without the hazards of possible foreclosure or rate adjustment.
A higher water alternate entrance at the top left also exists --- feeding you in just below the diagonal curler --- and can be seen in the middle of this wicked nice clip from the LVM boys: Do Not Feed To Cattle.
This is a big rock jumble and usually portaged, unless the left side sneak (which comes and goes) is open for transit, or you're game for one of two other more sketchy sneak lines, the river left-most of which is called "Pin Practice" --- you get the idea. Portage on the left, but if carrrying both Groove Tube and Sunshine, then portage on the right from the pool below Rapid Transit.
Enter Groove Tube left and slide down the entrance into a twelve foot drop with a shallow landing. Don't wipe your face on the rocks along the left wall going down. Check out this picture of the left line from behind the boater. Other lines here include a nice center-right auto-boof (pic #1, pic #2) which lands you in the current heading towards Sunshine. If you are not a Sunshine regular, be sure to catch the second eddy below Groove Tube on the right to portage or scout. Sunshine is right below and pretty easy to wash into. Be sure you know where that eddy is!
Hiking Out: The one trail out of the gorge is located on river left at Groove Tube. It is very steep for the first 200 yards, then turn left at the top of the steep section where it T's into the Pulliam Creek Trail. From there it's a mellow 2 mile walk uphill to Big Hungry Road, where you turn left again for civilization as we know it. Don't run the Green without knowing about this trail. Also, three rapids below Sunshine, at "Triple Cracks", the Green Cove Trail terminates on river left, and using it to go downstream 3.5 miles to below the take-out is an option, but longer than the Pulliam Creek Trail. The map, which does NOT show the short steep drop-off trail section to Groove Tube, is here in a pdf file.
Sunshine is the Green's most difficult rapid and one of its most consequential due to the river pounding over a 12-15 foot drop onto a broken rock shelf. Poor lines through Sunshine have caused countless injuries, including paralysis. So be careful. Start your run of Sunshine in the river left setup eddy. From here, you will want to ferry across and with a great boof stroke, power yourself into the river right eddy below. Depending on how things go, you'll either catch this bottom eddy, with possible cave time, or feed back left into the bottom drop. The alternate line here is "Sunshine Left"....very tight, scary to look at, and not done by a whole lot of people. Here's a cool second view of the left line, from the top.
The Lower Section: After maybe taking a little break at Sunshine, there are no major rapids until the Toilet Bowl/Hammer Factor combination at the end. It's just fun Class III and IV, with a couple of long shallow stretches, and you'll be sure to enjoy all the tricky eddies, fun boofs, and alternate lines on this stretch of easier rapids. Some have names, and in order those are sometimes called:
On Any Other River This Rapid Would Have A Name
Triple Cracks
Col. Dick's (aka West Prong Rapid)
All American Boof
Naked Lady Boof
Blackwater Falls
Baby Sunshine (picture) / Baby Hammer Factor -- "now with de-cap log"
After the long pool following Baby Sunshine, there's a nice Class III lead-in with multiple lines and a couple different ways to run Toilet Bowl, which sports a pretty big hole. Some people run top left and boof back right through it, but most probably boof right after angling down the main tongue feeding the bowl. With more water a far right line with a double rock bounce or one big boof works wonders. If you're not linking Toilet Bowl and Hammer Factor together, eddies await you on the left and right.
Hammer Factor has an intimidating look to it with the huge looming undercut boulder on the right side, but is pretty harmless at normal release levels. There's a small set-up eddy that gives you a chance to look at most of it, and the eddy can be entered a couple ways, including a fun boof (levels above 9") when using the left-most slot. From there, the standard deal is the enter on the right, ride the curler to your left and get up on the shelf. The more shelf-life the better, as it skirts you around the worst of the hole. Here's a shot from the bottom. At higher water it becomes more important to square-up to the hole once dropping off the shelf. Many people are spooked by Hammer Factor at high water, as stories of swims, and tandem swims, abound. The alternate line -- which looks harder than it is -- is the "right line", and starts from the river right and rattlesnake infested pool directly above the drop. Enter by boofing over or just left of a finger rock and aiming straight for the left wall, then continuing with the same shelf-life program as before. At the end of this video clip there are a few examples of the right line.
After the nice Toilet Bowl & Hammer Factor back-to-back combination ...that's it! There's a couple hundred yards of Class II, including one little thing called Bitch Slap, and you arrive back at Fishtop.
Be careful with your sports beverages here --- they are illegal in the Fishtop parking lot.