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Chautauqua Creek, NY

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Lyons Road to Lake Erie (The Glug)

Class III-IV
14.5 Miles
Avg Gradient 60 fpm
Max Gradient 110 fpm

Chautauqua rapids


Chautauqua rapids
Photo of Chautauqua Creek by headmj taken 2006-10-05 @ low ok

Gauge Information

Chautauqua Creek
4.15
10/10 14:30


River Description

Lat/longitude coordinates are approximate, from TopoZone.

I've run this creek only twice so far and I would have to say it is one of my favorite runs of all time!  I have noted the location and description of rapids I could remember and find on Google Earth.  There are many other Class III's and Class III+'s that I have either forgotten about or are harder to find on Google Earth.  Most of these unmarked rapids are not as steep, but are just as intense.  Drop type rapids are easier to see on Google Earth than other rapids.  It is also difficult to see rapids in narrow sections surrounded by hemlocks from the satalite images.  In all there are at least 25 rapids of Class III or better!

The trip starts out narrow and small. It widens out as you go, but gets more water so if it looks good at the put-in, you should have a good trip. Chautauqua flows through a very romote gorge called "The Glug" by locals. It starts out with small class II boogie water with good surfing. Then things become more interesting and several ledges on the creek come up with blind entries where the creek becomes very narrow and drops about 10 feet over stretches of about 30 yards. These short intense rapids are especially common near the beginning of the run but persist throughout much of the run. Basically, the whole run is at least constant Class II between rapids except for about two miles of Class I on the braided section between the two gorges. There is nothing on this reach to bore sane paddlers, so come prepared to have fun the whole run! Near Westfield there are several Class III ledges, one of which has a has a straight off drop of 7 feet in the center of the creek.

Unfortunatly in the Spring of 05' a huge late season snowstorm wiped out half of the hemlocks in the gorge and they have become strainers and it is a real mess right now. By this time all the ice in Chautauqua was gone.  I hope it's gone by now, but I haven't been back since.


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Gauge

Gauge Description:

There is a brand new gauge on Walnut Creek, PA about 35 miles from Chautauqua Creek.  The gauge is so new that there is not enough information yet to report runnable levels.  It is a little far away and will not be accurate during localized thunderstorm activity and somewhat accurate otherwise.  It should be accurate most of the time except for localized thunderstorm activity.  Generally, the headwaters of Chautauqua get a little more rainfall and snowfall than Walnut.  This is especially true during lake effect events. 


There is also guage on Cattaraugus Creek not too far away that may be helpful.  It is is a little closer but not as useful in my opinion.  Cattaraugus takes long steady rains to bring it up and then may run for a couple of days, where as Chautauqua runs after a heavy rain for a short duration of sometimes a couple of hours.  In other words, Catteraugus is a seasonal stream and Chautauqua is a flash flood stream and therefore responds to rain in a similar manor to Walnut.

Walnut Creek Upstream Pool, Near Erie [ PA ]

Current Conditions

Stage Flow Updated
4.15 8 10/10 14:30

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Level Legend: Running Below Minimum Recommended Flow Above Maximum Recommended Flow Unknown
Descriptions of reaches with River Name in bold have been verified by a regional StreamTeam member.

State River Name/Section Class Level Rel. Level Updated
NY Chautauqua Creek— Lyons Road to Lake Erie III-IV 4.15 ft   10/10 14:30
PA Elk Creek— Baron Road to Sterrettania II 4.15 ft   low 10/10 14:30
PA Elk Creek— Route 98 to Lake Erie I-II 4.15 ft   low 10/10 14:30
PA Elk Creek— Sterrettania to Route 98 I(II) 4.15 ft   low 10/10 14:30
PA Lamson Run— Branchville to Shadduck Road III-IV 4.15 ft   10/10 14:30
PA Little Elk Creek— Francis Road to the mouth to Girard II 4.15 ft   10/10 14:30
PA Little Elk Creek— Franklin Center Road to Francis Road III 4.15 ft   10/10 14:30
NY Twentymile Creek— S. Ripley to Lake Erie III+(V) 4.15 ft   low 10/10 14:30
PA Walnut Creek— Millfair Road to Lake Erie II-III(IV) 4.15 ft   low 10/10 14:30

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AW Gauge ID:11113
USGS Station:04213152
HUC:04120101
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0Lyons Road Put inPutin
1.2Glug De' DugIII+
1.3Harrington LedgeIII+
3.9Culver FallsIII+Waterfall
6.0Three SistersIII+Waterfall
11.0Gale WarningIII+Waterfall
11.2South Gale Road accessAccess
14.2North Gale take outTakeout

Rapid Descriptions

Lyons Road Put in

Put in at the dead end of Lyons Road.  There used to be a bridge here.  The best place to put in is to the right of the dead end road.  It's not as steep there.  The small pool after a small Class II ledge is the best place to put in.



Glug De' Dug (Class III+, Mile 1.2)

After 1.25 miles of warm-ups and great surfing, it's time to face the first ledge chute.  You know it's coming up when you pass the first shale cliff on the right side on a gradual horseshoe bend to the left.  You will then round a right hand bend and immediately begin to descend through Glug De' Dug.  Watch your elbows if the water is low as it channelizes into an actively erroded chute no wider than 6 feet.  This short ledge drops about 15 feet.  You may want to scout it on the right side to make sure it's free of wood as it is a blind entry.



Harrington Ledge (Class III+, Mile 1.3)

Immediately after Glug De' Dug, you come to Harrington Ledge.  This one drops about 15 feet as well and is even shorter.  It is not quite as intense because it is a little wider and doesn't have many features to it.  Pretty much you start bookin' down a 45 degree ledge and try to keep your balance for the hole at the bottom.



Culver Falls (Class III+, Mile 3.9)

This is the first waterfall on Chautauqua.  It is a blind entry just before a right hand bend.  You will know it's coming up when you see a cliff on the left side with no vegetation at all.  It only drops about 5 feet but this area can be dangerous if there are strainers due to blind entry and very steep banks that may make it difficult to portage around the wood.



Three Sisters (Class III+, Mile 6.0)

After the braided section, you are welcomed into the second gorge by Three Sisters.  They are three water supply dams with very good characteristics despite being man made.  Each consecutive dam gets bigger and the last one is by far the best with an 8 to 10 foot plunge into a deep pool!  Welcome to the second gorge!  Several Class III+ ledges follow over the next several miles.



Gale Warning (Class III+, Mile 11.0)

There's a Gale Warning...  please be advised, a 7 foot waterfall may create fun conditions!

 

A third of a mile from South Gale Road, you face the first rapid after coming out of the second gorge.  Houses appear and the cliffs are not nearly as tall anymore, however the rapids remain for the next couple of miles.  Most of the creek drops over a steep ledge, but the center line is a U shaped freefall line.  It is wide enough that you don't have to worry about your elbows and the hole at the bottom is not that bad for not being a "lip" type of falls.



South Gale Road access

This is the first access point after Lyons Road.  Park on the right side of the creek in the pull off by the bridge.  You can put in here if you don't have much time and there are a few Class III's still to come.  You can also take out here to shorten the trip from Lyons Road to 11 miles.



North Gale take out

To my knowledge, this is the last convenient place to take out.  I've never been farther downstream.  From Google Earth, it doesn't look like there are anymore rapids to the lake from here.




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