Big Indian to BoicevilleClass II-III
17 Miles
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Esopus Creek
Big Indian to Boiceville II-III
River DescriptionStrainer Warning!"pgw," on the Northeast Paddlers' Message Board, related in part, on 7/16/01: "We paddled the Esopus Sat, July 14 with its scheduled water release and noted a large pine tree strainer on river left appr'x 100 yards above the Woodland Valley Road Bridge (which is just above the slalom course at the old 'RailRoad Rapid'), Phoenicia, NY. The strainer extends fully across the river channel from left to right. We noted this before driving up to the Portal at Allaben where we put in. Someone posted a large wooden sign with RED letters on river right, 'Danger, do not go left, get out here'." He went on to describe a close call with a tuber who unaccountably failed to heed the sign. Careful out there! StreamTeam Status: unverified
Last Updated: 2003-08-25 18:58:25
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Esopus Creek At Coldbrook [ NY ] |
Current Conditions
Station Graphs |
| Level Legend: | Running | Below Minimum Recommended Flow | Above Maximum Recommended Flow | Unknown |
| State | River Name/Section | Class | Level | Rel. Level | Updated | |
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| NY | Esopus Creek— Allaben portal to Mt. Pleasant | II-III | 4.59 ft | low | 10/12 0:15 | |
| NY | Esopus Creek— Big Indian to Boiceville | II-III | 4.59 ft | low | 10/12 0:15 | |
| NY | Esopus Creek— Glenerie Falls to Saugerties | II-IV(V) | 365 cfs | 10/12 0:15 | ||
| NY | Kaaterskill Creek— Along Rte. 23A to Palenville | V | 4.59 ft | low | 10/12 0:15 | |
| NY | Squirmer Creek— Niles Rd. to Oak Hill | III-IV | 4.59 ft | low | 10/12 0:15 |
| AW Gauge ID: | 223 |
| USGS Station: | 01362500 |
| HUC: | 02020006 |
| Latitude: | 42.0142 |
| Longitude: | -74.2711 |
| Class: | -1 |
User Comments |
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2008-03-09 07:35:55 (217 days ago)
The maximum level of 6.25 feet (perhaps 1500 CFS) is wildly unrealistic. Typically that isn't even enough to paddle the section above the portal. A much better reference is the guage at Allaben, a bit upstream of he portal: http://tinyurl.com/2p9by7
I'd guess that about 400 is minimum, and I've paddled from Big Indian at about 1000cfs on the Allaben guage. At that level it's mostly fast and continuous, but not technically difficult. Figure class 2 to 3 waves and current, but not much manuevering required to miss rocks or holes. As of late 2007 there are two river-wide strainers that are mandatory portages. They can both be seen from county route 47, a bit west of state route 42. One is just downstream of the upstream fishing access, and the other is a bit further upstream. Still further upstream, and just below the bridge on Fire House Rd there's a blind drop of 3 or 4 feet that should be scouted.
Unless all the water is coming from the headwaters, 1000 cfs at Allaben will probably mean 2500 cfs or more on the Cold Brook guage. That will make the rest of the run fast and pushy, but for the most part it doesn't get more difficult. Edit
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