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1. Indian River to North River (Hudson Gorge)

Class III-IV
14 Miles

Otter slide on Indian Creek


Otter slide on Indian Creek
Photo of Simon Wiles by Cheryl Robinson

Gauge Information

med
5.80
7/24 20:15

Min Sug. Level:  2.8 ft Max Sug. Level:  8.5 ft

River Description

This section of the Hudson river runs through the remote Hudson River Gorge. If you are not sure you can handle Class-IV water you should not even begin this trip, as a hike out is at least 3 miles up and out of the Gorge. With that being said, the trip actually starts out on the Indian River by way of a dam release which begins most mornings at about 10 AM. There is a great Class-IV to IV+ warmup on the Indian if you start below the dam, which is higher than the raft putin.

The Indian is an interesting and challenging river because of its continuous nature. For all intents and purposes, the river is continuous Class III+ with one break in the middle for 3 straight miles. Usually the correct path is somewhat in the center. However, there are several holes which are in the center, which force the paddler to the left or right.

Once on the Hudson, you will have several Class-III rapids to paddle. However, once you notice the tall cliffs on river right be prepared for harder rapids. For the next four miles the river will try to teach you a lesson in paddling (or a rolling clinic if you have the wrong line). There are a number of pourovers as well as holes and waves. Once you see the railroad bridge you have made it through the hardest part. About the only thing left is a ledge called Greyhound Bus Stop, which is a river-wide ledge with a sneak route on extreme river left. There is a small chute somewhere around river center. Be careful, however, because the wrong route will result in a quick lesson in side-surfing (or windowshading as the case may be). After this ledge you face a 3-mile flatwater paddle to the takeout.


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Last Updated: 2006-04-09 10:48:58

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Otter slide on Indian Creek


Otter slide on Indian Creek 
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Otter slide on Indian Creek


Otter slide on Indian Creek  Hudson NY
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Blue Ledges


Blue Ledges  Hudson NY
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typical Hudson rapid


typical Hudson rapid  Hudson NY
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typical Hudson scenery


typical Hudson scenery  Hudson NY
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put-in


put-in  Hudson NY
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Givneys ahead


Givneys ahead  Hudson NY
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Me in The Narrows


Me in The Narrows  Hudson NY
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Senator Robert F. Kennedy in C2


Senator Robert F. Kennedy in C2  Hudson NY
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Gauge

Gauge Description:

The gauge is actually in North Creek which is about 5 miles below the takeout. 2.8 is actually too low if you miss the bubble from the Indian and can be rather scratchy even if you don't. Once it gets above 5.5 the run is pretty continuous. Above 7, you had better be pretty confident of your ability, as the river easily takes control upon the least mistake.

Hudson River At North Creek [ NY ]

Current Conditions

Stage Flow Updated
5.8 4620 7/24 20:15

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Level Legend: Running Below Minimum Recommended Flow Above Maximum Recommended Flow Unknown
Descriptions of reaches with River Name in bold have been verified by a regional StreamTeam member.

State River Name/Section Class Level Rel. Level Updated
NY Boreas— 1. Boreas Road to Route 28N II-III 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15
NY Boreas— 2. Route 28N to Hudson River III-V 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15
NY Deer (Hudson Trib.)— Fourteenth Rd. to North River III-V 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15
NY Glen Creek— I-II(IV) 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15
NY Hudson— 1. Indian River to North River III-IV 5.80 ft   med 7/24 20:15
NY Hudson— 2. North River to Riparius II-III 5.80 ft   med 7/24 20:15
NY Hudson— 3. Riparius to the Glen III 5.80 ft   med 7/24 20:15
NY Mill Creek (Hudson trib.)— Johnsburg (above Wevertown) to Hudson River I-IV(V) 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15
NY North Creek— Back to Sodom Rd. to Sodom Rd. III-V 5.80 ft   low 7/24 20:15

Station Description

AW Gauge ID:192
USGS Station:01315500
HUC:02020001
Latitude:43.7008
Longitude:-73.9839
Class:6

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User Comments

2007-08-27 11:17:39 (332 days ago)
Mark ZakDetails
Is anyone interested in the upper Indian downstream of the dam and abover the Otter Slide. Last time I was on the reach I remember some big surfing waves above the otter slide. Does anyone have some beta on these waves and is anything eddy accessible?
2005-04-20 19:40:02 (1191 days ago)
Norm StauntonDetails
I can confirm the river-right "sneak" in Giveny's below 5 feet. The line hugs the right shore, way right of Soup Strainer. There are a few nice hits which are easily avoided or run, your choice. This line is definately easier than the center-left-center line and is probably advisable for newer paddlers. Above 5 feet the line is still there, but the hits become much bigger. Your choice where to go.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
6.0The NarrowsIV
9.0GivneysIV

Rapid Descriptions

The Narrows (Class IV, Mile 6.0)
Once you pass Blue Ledges you will pass a wave train on the right (excellent place to surf) then the river will narrow significantly and turn right. The paddle route is center with a sneak route to the right. A nasty hole is on river left that you would do well to avoid.

Givneys (Class IV, Mile 9.0)
The river makes a sharp right turn as it drops into Givneys rapids. Be very careful of the swirling currents at the top of the river. Begin the rapids in river center but immediately proceed to the left to avoid "soup strainer" which is a huge hole/pourover that extends out to river center. Immediately after you pass soup strainer quickly move back to center as there is another serious hole just below and on the left that extends out to the center of the river. If you are adventurous you may want to use the eddy on river left to examine soup strainer but make sure you have the ability to ferry back to river center. In high water this is very difficult. I have been told that there is a sneak route down river right that weaves back and forth but can not confirm. Again, if you decide to use the sneak route make sure to avoid soup strainer.


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First Annual Hudson River Derby
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