2. Walden Ridge to Soddy-Daisy (North Chick)Class IV-V
12 Miles
Avg Gradient 90 fpm
Gauge Information
North Chickamauga Creek
River DescriptionThere are a couple of put-in options for North Chick. The easiest run of these is to put-in on North Chick. The second option would be to put-in on Cain Creek. Putting in on Cain Creek adds quite a bit of Class 4 and 5 whitewater but eliminates a waterfall on the Chick side. For the hardcore there is the option of putting in on Cooper Creek, but be warned that if Cooper is running you're gonna be in for a high water adventure on Chick. Put-In Directions:
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Last Updated: 2008-03-19 19:52:45
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There is also a boater gauge at the takeout
From Daniel Talley:
"The first stop is checking at the take out. Upon entering the parking lot at the Bowater Pocket Wilderness, take your first left and go to the lowest parking spots available. From here, take the trail to the right that follows to the gauge. The trail is blazed with small orange markers on trees and goes upstream about 50 yards. It ends on a couch sized rock with the gauge right below you."
Minimum for the Cain Creek run is in the 1.8ft range. Max is up to you. What some people like to see before driving a hundred miles to do this river is the Collins at McMinnville over 5000 cfs and/or the Tellico over 1000 cfs.
I'm still working on the minimum and maximum levels for the take-out gauge. I do know that some of the local experts have run Chick at some ridiculously high levels.
From SEboater on boatertalk:
1'7 - 2'2 low to med low
2'3 - 2'7 med (on avg)
2'8 - ? pushy, big holes, fun
North Chickamauga Creek near Montlake [ TN ] |
Current Conditions
Station Graphs |
| Level Legend: | Running | Below Minimum Recommended Flow | Above Maximum Recommended Flow | Unknown |
| State | River Name/Section | Class | Level | Rel. Level | Updated | |
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| TN | Cain Creek— Barker Camp Rd. to Bowater Parking lot | IV-V | 1 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| TN | North Chickamauga Creek— 1. Double Bridge to put-in for gorge run | II-III | 1 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| TN | North Chickamauga Creek— 2. Walden Ridge to Soddy-Daisy | IV-V | 1 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| TN | North Chickamauga Creek— 3. Bowater Parking Area to Hwy 27 | III-IV | 1 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| TN | Rock Creek— Retro-Hughes Road to Leggett Rd bridge | III-IV+ | 1 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 |
| AW Gauge ID: | 10223 |
| USGS Station: | 03566525 |
| HUC: | 06020001 |
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User Comments |
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2005-08-25 16:38:28 (1139 days ago)
Jiri Vala
WARNING: BAD SIEVE<br />
We almost lost a good man to the sieve below the hole at El Roberto on 7/11/2005. Although he had to buy us all beer that night for saving his life, I would prefer to buy my own. I am posting this so nobody else will take this rapid as lightly as we did yesterday. Our party of 6 had a combined 25+ runs on this river and I think that we let out guard down in what seemed to be a fairly innocuous spot. We put on around 12 at about 6.2 on the USGS gauge. The Bowater Gauge read 1.5 when we put on and 1.35 when we took off. The sieve is created by the huge boulder that the author of this picture is standing: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/photos/?photoid=7891 <br /><br />
This photo (which can also be seen above is labeled El Roberto by Rob Maxwell) also illustrates the typical line through the rapid: punch the upper corner of the hole and eddy out on river left---avoiding the meat of the hole and the large tree obstructing the narrow exit on river right. From the eddy, you ferry between the backwash of the hole and the truck-size boulder that is blocking half of the river---threading between the boulder and the tree. At higher water, this is an easy move because the eddy is large and the water is pillowing off the boulder. At lower water, the boulder's undercut is exposed and the eddy is small, shallow, and leaks directly into the undercut left side of the boulder with tremendous force. Most of the party had eddied out and the fourth guy (I will call him Lazarus) hit the leaky part of the eddy and began to slip away. He went for the ferry around the rock but didn't make it over the pillow and was sucked into the undercut. He completely disappeared under the rock and at one point we could only see the 18" of his stern. He sprung out from under the rock grasping for purchase but went back under before we could grab him---fingernails scraping down the rock as he went under. While he was down there talking to Jesus, we were there instantly to pull him out with ropes or whatever it took if he surfaced again. He did---and we were able to grab both arms and it took all of us to pull his ass out from under the boulder. Lazarus later explained that it was about 12 feet deep under the rock and very dark. He said that he wouldn't have had the energy to crawl toward the light a third time. I honestly don't know how he was able to manage it twice but he is a wicked strong mf$@%@&.<br />
The main thing I learned that day is to take nothing for granted: paddle down every river as if it were my first run. The other lesson learned is that maybe I will boof the flake next time and take my chances with the hole and tree dance.
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2005-07-15 23:38:35 (1180 days ago)
Jiri Vala
WARNING: BAD SEIVE<br /><br /><br />
We almost lost a good man to the sieve below the hole at El Roberto on 7/11/2005. Although he had to buy us all beer that night for saving his life, I would prefer to buy my own. I am posting this so nobody else will take this rapid as lightly as we did yesterday. Our party of 6 had a combined 25+ runs on this river and I think that we let out guard down in what seemed to be a fairly innocuous spot. Our party of 6 put on around 12 at about 6.2 on the USGS gauge. The Bowater Gauge read 1.5 when we put on and 1.35 when we took off. The sieve is created by the huge boulder that the author of this picture is standing: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/photos/?photoid=7891 <br /><br /><br />
This photo also illustrates the typical line through the rapid: punch the upper corner of the hole and eddy out on river left---avoiding the meat of the hole and the large tree obstructing the narrow exit on river right. From the eddy, you ferry between the backwash of the hole and the truck-size boulder that is blocking half of the river---threading between the boulder and the tree. At higher water, this is an easy move because the eddy is large and the water is pillowing off the boulder. At lower water, the boulder's undercut is exposed and the eddy is small, shallow, and leaks directly into the undercut left side of the boulder with tremendous force. Most of the party had eddied out and the fourth guy (I will call him Lazarus) hit the leaky part of the eddy and began to slip away. He went for the ferry around the rock but didn't make it over the pillow and was sucked into the undercut. He completely disappeared under the rock and at one point we could only see the 18" of his stern. He sprung out from under the rock grasping for purchase but went back under before we could grab him. We were there instantly to pull him out with ropes or whatever it took when he surfaced again. We were able to grab both arms and it took all of us to pull him out from under the rock. Lazarus later explained that it was about 12 feet deep under the rock and very dark. He said that he wouldn't have had the energy to crawl toward the light a third time. I honestly don't know how he was able to manage it twice but Lazarus is as strong as a horse. <br /><br /><br />
The main thing I learned is to take nothing for granted: paddle down every river as if it were my first run. The other lesson learned is that maybe I will boof the flake next time and take my chances with the hole.<br /><br /><br />
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2005-03-17 17:30:23 (1300 days ago)
Robert Maxwell
The USGS North Chick gage is in an unstable stream bed that changes and shifts after floods. Lucky for us, the Bowater Paddler's gage is placed in a very stable area and hasn't changed with each flood. As of December 2004 here's how the USGS gage relates to the Paddler's Bowater Gage. <br />
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USGS = Paddlers Gage<br />
10.93 = 5.50<br />
7.68 = 3.25<br />
7.23 = 2.90<br />
6.92 = 2.80<br />
6.84 = 2.50<br />
6.57 = 2.20<br />
6.30 = 1.80<br />
6.27 = 1.75<br />
6.16 = 1.50<br />
6.14 = 1.10 <br />
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I have an Excel 2000 spreadsheet that predicts the levels for North Chick and several other rivers in the southeast. If you’d like a copy of this spreadsheet e-mail me at H2Olevelcheck@boatingbeta.com and I will send it to you. I only check this address weekly, so pardon me if I don’t get back to you right away.<br />
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Paddle Safe – Rob Maxwell
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2004-11-23 21:48:29 (1414 days ago)
Terry Smith
Since the last time I checked this page out someone added some good pics. One of the rapids in the pics that the author called "Truth or Concequence" is actually named "Back Street Ally". This is always a good one to scout. Over the years I have seen all sort of trees stuck in this one.
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2004-11-08 09:35:27 (1429 days ago)
Rob Scott
The internet gauge is now way off. UPDATE: I ran it the other day at 6.17 on the Online gauge which was 1.5 at Bowater and just under 0.5 at the top - I would consider this bare minimum to run from the top of Cain, though some would say minimum is a little higher. It can be run lower if you putin at drainpipe(down to maybe 1.1 on the bottom gauge if you don't mind banging on a lot of rocks). Careful if you put on at Drainpipe - someone slashed my tire there in 9/04.
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2004-03-08 14:32:06 (1674 days ago)
Robert Slayden
More N. Chick History:<br />
Bob Slayden, David Broemel, Greer Edwards (Broemel), Ken Strictland, Charlie Sturdivant ran from Rock House on Jan. 19, 1980. Minimum water level. Ran Falls, but rocky. Greer washed over the falls, but OK. Water level about minimum. My notes say that N. Chick. was first run in Nov. 1979 by Mike Stoker and Lewis Brawley. Second run was in December by Roger Scott, Ken Strictland, and Tom Parsons. All runs were from Rock House.<br />
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We started putting in off a surface mine road that required extensive 4-wheelin to get access. This point is about 1 mile downstream from the Greyfrier Road access. My recollection is not getting out of the boat for the entire run once we leared the routes. Ran it 4-5 times in early 80's. Great Creek. Still my very favorite. --Bob Slayden
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2004-02-23 16:21:24 (1688 days ago)
Brad Roberts
From Clay Wright:<br />
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N. Chick:<br />
Internet gage is easy now days . . .AW site rules! Cain side much more popular now . . why miss Vortex and Drainpipe? Shorter, too. More write-up needed on Walden’s crown jewel. When people say they don’t like it, they ran it too low. <br />
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2004-01-10 14:09:00 (1732 days ago)
Terry Smith
When the North Chick Gauge is at 2.8 you can put in at Hixson Springs Creek along the powerline in the state natural area and paddle down to North Chick. This will put you in right above Mystery Falls. The hike to Hixson Springs Creek is about 30 min. Park at the new parking area for the natural area on Hixson Springs Road. At levels below 2.8 you will probably have to walk down the creek bed to North Chick but it is not far. This access keeps you off private land and allows you to cut out the flat water.
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2003-02-19 13:05:17 (2057 days ago)
Brad Roberts
From Ted Hayes
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Here the beta.
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Old 27 S (Dayton Pike)
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Lft @ Falling Water
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Go up Roberts Mill
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Bear Lft @ Sawyer
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Rgt @ Corral
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Rgt @ Grey Frier
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Dead end Street.
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* No Public Parking *
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Ask permission to park, locals were boater friendly.
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Follow the drainage ditch off to the lft, it straight
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to the creek.
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Alot of flat water, some cool drops. Especially
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Mystery Falls, overall a long day. Recommended when
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the Chick is on the high side, and relatively warm. No
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sure of the actual mileage, but I do remember it being
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a pretty long paddle. There is a trail, according to
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Terry Smith. When I get more info, I'll let you know.
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2003-02-18 13:00:43 (2058 days ago)
Brad Roberts
From SEboater on Boatertalk:
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1'7 - 2'2 low to med low
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2'3 - 2'7 med (on avg)
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2'8 - ? pushy, big holes, fun
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| Mile | Rapid Name | Class | Features (Legend) |
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| 2.8 | Welcome Center | IV | |
| 2.9 | After Welcome Center | IV | |
| 3.0 | Mystery Falls | IV+ | |
| 3.5 | Rapid after Mystery Falls | IV+ | |
| 4.0 | Cain Creek | ||
| 6.0 | North Chick Falls | 5.0 | |
| 8.0 | V-Slot | IV | |
| 8.2 | Cyclops | IV+ | |
| 8.5 | Baby Sweets | IV+ | |
| 9.0 | El Roberto | IV+ | |
| 11.0 | Bowling Alley | IV |
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