Highway 28 to Overflow CreekClass IV-V(V+)
2 Miles
Avg Gradient 200 fpm
Max Gradient 258 fpm
Gauge Information
Big Creek
Highway 28 to Overflow Creek IV-V(V+)
River DescriptionBig Creek runs 2 miles from Hwy 28 to the Three Forks confluence. There are still 2 more miles of paddling out on Overflow Creek to the take-out.The final half mile to the confluence drops 214 feet in the half mile for a nearly 430 fpm average.
"The First time Russ Kullmar and I ran this. It had already been run once before by a local C1 paddler back in the late 1970's.
There is another named drop called thunderdome.
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Last Updated: 2005-08-15 17:07:05
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CULLASAJA RIVER AT SR 1620 NEAR HIGHLANDS, NC [ NC ] |
Current Conditions
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| Level Legend: | Running | Below Minimum Recommended Flow | Above Maximum Recommended Flow | Unknown |
| State | River Name/Section | Class | Level | Rel. Level | Updated | |
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| GA | Big Creek— Highway 28 to Overflow Creek | IV-V(V+) | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Cullasaja— 1. Upper (Lake Sequoyah to below Cosmic Crunch) | IV-V+ | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Cullasaja— 2. Middle (Below Cosmic Crunch to Above Cullasaja Falls) | IV(V+) | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Cullasaja— 3. Lower - Base of Cullasaja Falls to Peeks Creek Bridge | IV-V(V+) | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Cullasaja— 4. Peeks Creek Rd (NC-1678) to Peaceful Cove Rd (NC-1677) | II(III) | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Cullasaja— 5. Peaceful Cove Rd (NC-1677) to Fulton Rd (NC-1668) | I-II | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| GA | Holcombe Creek— FS Road 86B bridge to Three Forks of W.Fork Chattooga | IV-V+ | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Horsepasture— US Route 281 to Lake Jocassee | V | 2.90 feet | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| NC | Middle Creek— NC 106 - Park and Huck | III-IV(V+) | 2.90 ft | low | 10/8 3:30 | |
| GA | Overflow Creek— USFS Road 86B to Overflow Creek Road Bridge | IV-V(V+) | 14 cfs | low | 10/8 3:30 |
| AW Gauge ID: | 6713 |
| USGS Station: | 0350056050 |
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No guide books for this stream. If you know of a book that describes this stream please contact and advise the StreamTeam member for this run. User Comments |
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2005-01-05 13:59:26 (1371 days ago)
Scott McCorvey
This run is very serious. There are rapids on this river that are as difficult as the hardest creeks in the SE. Without knowing where the rapids are, one could flush into a "Russian roulette" type swim and death could follow. This run is no joke and should not be tried without a seriously good group and major scouting.<br />
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Scott McCorvey
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2005-01-03 17:13:13 (1373 days ago)
Jerry Jascomb
Hiked in recently with Scott M. and took a few shots (above). I think the big one is "Holy Shit;" did not get much further than that, as no trails exist. Another hike for another day.
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2003-09-08 21:25:19 (1856 days ago)
Brad Roberts
From: Savage Yak (savageyak@aol.com)
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Subject: Re: Big Creek in Chatooga watershed?
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Original Format
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Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
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Date: 1995/11/25
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It was first run by Alan Singly (singly's falls on Overflow), but the
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rapids were mostly pioneered by Russ Kullmar and Myself. It has three
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basic gorges, with two very serious rapids called Holy Shit and
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Thunderdome which have not been run to date (though the last drop in
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Thunderdome has been run - beware rocks just below the surface). Holy
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Shit, the first of the portages you walk on the left, and it's a
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precarious portage. Thunderdome, on the right. The rest is continous, and
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fairly difficuld with undercuts and pin spots. It's a lot like Overflow,
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except steeper. It's fun, and the Overflow Guage should be minimum 1 foot
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before you attempt to run it. Enjoy.
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Corran Addison
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2003-08-14 04:19:39 (1882 days ago)
Brad Roberts
From: Strickland (frans@mail.tds.net)
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Subject: Re: Big Creek (Chatooga Watershed)
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View: Complete Thread (16 articles)
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Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
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Date: 1998/04/28
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cgeist@usiatl.com wrote:
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> Can anyone give me some specific information on Big Creek (One of the two
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> rivers that drains into Overflow creek at the three-forks confluence).
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> Has it been run before? Where are the mandatory portages? Can the thing that
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> looks like a "triple gorrila" be run at all, etc.
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> My girlfriend and I hiked down it this past weekend and I was intrigued, to
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> say the least. Some of the rapids, though, looked like death on a stick.
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> -Craig
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A group of us "ran" this stream in the winter if 1975. My notes are
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titled: "First and Possibly Only Descent of Big Creek." Today, this is
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funny! It has been run several times since then and our "First Descent"
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is certainly a question of semantics since we walked as much as we
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paddled! Mark Warren found this interesting squiggly line on a topo and
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one Winter's day found us putting in off the Hwy 28 bridge. Mark and Joe
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Stubbs were in a C-2! Contemplate THAT for a minute! As my notes say,
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"May the Lord look after the widows and little children of the world,
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and also those simple souls willing to paddle a C-2 down a stream such
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as this." Ray Stang was in a K-1, as was I, and Tom Moye was in a C-1.
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Anyway, the first portage comes soon, perhaps within 1/4 mile of the
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put-in. A steep approach rapid roars over a vertical ledge of perhaps
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ten feet into a seething cauldron of foam before dropping another five
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feet or so into a pool. Is it runnable? By today's standards, yes, by a
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VERY few. However, the logs protruding out of the foam usually make it
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an easy decision as to what to do! There are several large ledges before
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one encounters what is now called "Thunder Dome." We never called it
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anything but "scary" from a paddler's perspective (and perhaps
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"magnificent" in our private thoughts). It reminds me of Linville Falls,
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somewhat. Perhaps dropping a total of sixty feet in several stages, the
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final one on spilling on top of a boulder or ledge before making the
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plunge into the pool. Can IT be run? Back off folks, we've got to save
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something for future generations of paddlers! The last half mile or so
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drops steeply down to the Three Forks. From my notes: " From the topo we
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know that this section, perhaps a half mile in length, drops incredibly
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steeply in its haste to join the West Fork. Quite unrunnable. We feel
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that portaging along the riverside will be difficult if not downright
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impossible. We elect to leave the river and find the trail on the ridge
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above the river." and, "During our portage along the ridge we look down
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through the trees and view many cascading drops. The water seems to fall
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in slow motion, an indication of just how large these drops are." I now
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know that all of this section has been run, but of course we were in ICF
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regulation length glass boats, cop-out of the Ancients. (I was in a
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home-made Lettmann Mark V - oops, has the statute of limitations
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expired?).
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We relaunched on Overflow Creek, just above the confluence aptly named
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"Three Forks". It is quite possible that we were the first ones in boats
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on this section of the West Fork, but, no matter - we portaged most of
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it!
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And now, if my history is correct (are you out there Robin Socemdog), we
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told Allan Singley about this run which got him to thinking and looking
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at other squiggly lines in the area. Soon, perhaps later that year or
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early during the next, he soloed Overflow Creek (okay, maybe his dog
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went with him). The next run was a dual one by Allan and Robin Socemdog
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soon followed by a third descent, a threesome of Robin Socemdog, Joe
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Stubbs, and myself. I still remember, with fondness, Robin Socemdog's
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incredibly animated descriptions of how to run the big drops. He'd
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spout, "Just paddle up, pppttttuppp!!! off the lip into a pool!" We
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always turned our heads as he usually sprayed us with spittle when
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describing how to run them! Robin Sockemdog, the king of the riverine
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onomatopoeia!
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Oops, sorry Craig. You asked for specific information, not a history
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lesson. But it's the best that I could do. I haven't been back!
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Regards,
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Ken (S).
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