Learn about stars here

St. Joe, ID

Disclaimer

1. Upper: Heller Creek to Spruce Tree Camp

Class III-IV
16 Miles
Avg Gradient 60 fpm
Max Gradient 118 fpm

What you're likely to encounter on your way to the put in.


What you're likely to encounter on your way to the put in.
Photo by Todd Hoffman taken 10 June 2004

Gauge Information

low
1,180
12/2 8:30

Min Sug. Level:  5000 cfs

River Description

Overview:
This section of the St. Joe is part of the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System. It is one of only five federally-protected, wild rivers in Idaho. Boating the upper Joe can be difficult for a number of reasons: the access is long and rough, the season is short and hard to hit and the run can be demanding with frequent portaging. However, this pristine river is one of the most beautiful in North Idaho.

The upper section runs for 16 miles from Heller Creek to Spruce Tree, through a 2,500', elbow shaped gorge, carving between Needle Peak (6,386') and Five Lakes Butte (6,713'). The river drops roughly 60' per mile with mostly swiftwater class III, punctuated by a few class IV ledges. The streambed is undefined with brushy banks for much of the run. Logs, logjams and various strainers are the primary obstacles you need to be aware of. There is a good trail running from all the way from Heller to Spruce Tree, but it climes above up the canyon side in several places. The trip is usually done in one or two days. Scouting this section by small aircraft is highly recommmended prior to making your run. The fishing on this section is excellent later in the season.

Season:
Depending greatly on the year's snow conditions, the season is roughly from mid to late June to the beginning of July. All roads to the put in run over high altitude passes that are generally only free of snow AFTER peak run off. While water levels are still high, contact the Avery ranger station, (208) 245-4517, to see if the road from Red Ives to Heller Camp (road 320) is confirmed open. As soon as the road is open, make your attempt to get in. This is an extremely difficult run to catch.

Maps:
St. Joe National Forest / Lolo National Forest / Clearwater National Forest

Logistics:
Exit interstate 90 at St. Regis, Montana, drive west through town onto the frontage road for roughly 1-2 miles. Cross the bridge over I-90 and continue south up Little Joe Creek (road 282) over Gold Creek Summit to the St. Joe (about 45 minutes). Continue up the Joe on road 218 for roughly 12 miles to Red Ives Ranger Station.

To get to the take out drive 3 miles upriver from Red Ives to the end of road 218 at Spruce Tree Campground. You can also use Red Ives as your take out which has ample parking, only adds 3 miles of additional floating while eliminating 9 miles of shuttle driving. Plus, the volunteer Rangers are on site most of the Spring and Summer to look after things.

To reach the put in, take road 320 north, up Red Ives Creek, (directly behind the old ranger’s residence). This is one of the more beautiful drives anywhere in Idaho, but you’ll need a high clearance vehicle. Roughly 6-7 miles above Red Ives it’s worth taking the short drive up road 730 (the sign is missing) to Needle Peak. Make the quick walk to the summit and you’ll be rewarded with an amazing view of the canyon and several impressive Idaho mountain ranges. This is God’s Country! Alternate access to Heller Creek is possible via horseback from Spruce Tree if the roads are snowed in.

At Heller Camp there is a brushy and swampy ¼ mile trail to the river. You'll need to get to Heller camp the night before your trip, and get a very early start the next morning, especially if you plan on trying to float out in one day. The camping is excellent, the entire trip in is very slow and the country is incredible. You’re better off simply taking your time and enjoying it as you might not get back to this neck of the woods any time soon.

Planning Tools:
Forest Service Camping Guide
Gauge Correlation - Calder
Gradient Chart
Hydrograph
Map of Idaho Panhandle
NOAA - River Flow Forcast
NOAA - Snow Pack Report

Notes:
There are several outstanding runs close by, within a 30 mile radius of Avery you find the Skookum Canyon (class III-IV) and Tumbledown (class III-IV) sections of the main St. Joe, plus Marble Creek (class III-IV), Slate Creek (class IV-V) and the North Fork of the Joe(class III). Also, access to the Little North Fork of the Clearwater(class IV) is from Avery via Fishook Creek.


StreamTeam Status: unverified
Last Updated: 2006-05-20 00:15:04

Search Results

Photos/Videos 1- of 6

Hydrograph - St. Joe at Red Ives


Hydrograph - St. Joe at Red Ives  St. Joe ID
(6.02KB .gif)

What you're likely to encounter on your way to the put in.


What you're likely to encounter on your way to the put in.  St. Joe, Upper ID
(119.02KB .jpeg)

Gradient Chart - Upper St. Joe


Gradient Chart - Upper St. Joe  St. Joe ID
(25.58KB .jpeg)

Gauge Correlation: Calder - Red Ives


Gauge Correlation: Calder - Red Ives  St. Joe ID
(45.79KB .jpeg)

Needle Peak


Needle Peak  St. Joe ID
(132.62KB .jpeg)

Rock Slide - Head of Red Ives Creek


Rock Slide - Head of Red Ives Creek  St. Joe ID
(104.82KB .jpeg)

1

This topic does not exist yet

You’ve followed a link to a topic that doesn’t exist yet.

If permissions allow (as a AW Member, you may edit River Wiki, for example) you may create it by using the “Create This Page Button” below by hovering your mouse over the edit wrench.

If you don’t see a wrench, you don’t have permission to edit or edit is turned off.

If you don’t know what you are doing click on the sandbox and instructions link off the create page link.

Gauge

Gauge Description:

There is a gauge at Red Ives (3 miles below the takeout) but unfortunately, realtime flow information is not currently available. The closest online gauge is at Calder, which is more than 60 miles downstream below several major tributaries. However, from a limited set of historical data obtained for the Red Ives gauge (1997 to 2002) I've managed to develop a very rough correlation to the Calder gauge (Flow at Red Ives = Calder Flow x 0.1538 - 13.877), and a hydrograph. There is a margin of error in the correlation so use your best judgement. Look for around 5,000 CFS at Calder (which is roughly equal to 750 CFS at Red Ives) as an indicator of minimum flow. From the hydrograph peak flow is June 1, but this is a very difficult one to predict.

St Joe River at Calder [ ID ]

Current Conditions

Stage Flow Updated
6.08 1180 12/2 8:30

Station Graphs


Linked Reaches

Search Results

Level Legend: Running Below Minimum Recommended Flow Above Maximum Recommended Flow Unknown
Descriptions of reaches with River Name in bold have been verified by a regional StreamTeam member.

State River Name/Section Class Level Rel. Level Updated
ID St. Joe— 1. Upper: Heller Creek to Spruce Tree Camp III-IV 1,180 cfs   low 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe— 2. Spruce Tree Camp to Gold Creek III 1,180 cfs   med 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe— 3. Tumbledown: Conrad Crossing to Bluff Creek III-IV 1,180 cfs   med 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe— 4. Skookum Canyon: Turner Creek to Packsaddle III-IV 1,180 cfs   med 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe, Big Creek— Along Road plus Hike to MF put in III-IV 1,180 cfs   low 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe, North Fork— Loop Creek to St. Joe Confluence III 1,180 cfs   low 12/2 8:30
ID St. Joe, Slate Creek— Fritz Creek to St. Joe Confluence IV-V 1,180 cfs   low 12/2 8:30

Station Description

AW Gauge ID:4912
USGS Station:12414500
HUC:17010304
Latitude:47.2750
Longitude:-116.1875
Class:4

WXPort

News




Guidebooks



Idaho the Whitewater State
$19.95

No Comments

Add a Comment

Rapid Descriptions

icon of message No rapids entered. If you know names, and locations of the rapids please contact and advise the StreamTeam member for this run.

AW Membership Status

Please join AW.

To enjoy extra features of this website please register by clicking here.No permissions.

Volunteer Opportunities / Activities

StreamTeam

Todd HoffmanDetails
...

Disclaimer Data Sources

EPA Surf This Watershed

USGS Page for This Station

NPS ID Rivers Inventory


Journal Archive Articles



 River Alert  
 State News  
 River Links  
  (RSS)  
  (KML)help  
  (mobile)  
 River Info (mobile)