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Difficulty III
Length 2.5 Miles
Gauge KINDERHOOK CREEK AT ROSSMAN NY
Flow Range 12000 - 18000 CFS
Flow Rate as of: 16 minutes ago 1900 [CFS]
Reach Info Last Updated 04/21/2016 3:32 pm

River Description


This has rarely been run. Dennis Dodge reports running it ca. 1980 in 13-ft glass boats. It was run again in August, 2100. (See below.)

The putin is actually on Punsit Creek, just upstream of the confluence with Indian Creek which forms Kline Kill.
Stu Summer gave the following description of his run in this post in the Northeast Paddlers' Message Board:

August 29, 2011 KLINE KILL

Two days after (Hurricane) Irene swept through, Martin Summer and I headed to the Kline Kill (a Kinderhook tributary in north-central Columbia County) for a long awaited first run. It is evidence of the small watershed and its flashiness that the Kill was already well down and in fact could not be run much lower. We parked on County Route 9 next to the bridge over the Kill. We slid our canoes through the brush and dragged them a bit down from the bridge, past a strainer (which are common in this bottom land). We then floated around some other small strainers to the junction with Indian Creek just above the four barrelled culverts under the Taconic Parkway. These are giant and the high water mark from the flood showed another 3-4 feet of headroom even after the monster rains. Our level was already maybe 5 feet lower.

We caught an eddy at the conjunction, and it was difficult but possible to boat scout the four culverts and choose the river left one, which was easier to see down and was all clear. It was a smooth passage with no drop off at the down stream lip. Below the Taconic the river bends left and then right with numerous strainers, but only one river wide. All of this is class I-II. The scenery past the TSP is bucolic. After about a mile, the river turns south and then begins to parallel Rte. 9 southwest towards Ghent and Rte 66. Here the river picks up a little, with some class 2’s and then in the 1/4 mile above the Slate Hill Rd. bridge come some Class III ledges, the drop under the bridge being the most exciting. These might be Class IV at higher water. Our newly acquired pumps were only mildly needed.

One quarter mile further one comes to the large eddy and right-angle turn to river right. This can be seen clearly from the road and scouted (despite the "no trespassing" sign. A caretaker told us once that it was fishermen and swimmers they resist.) The ensuing rapid has most of the water plunging beneath an undercut, which is invisible at higher water (like this day). At our level, there was a bit of water zigzagging over ledges on river left which we could very slowly snake/scrape down. There is a tempting move for an expert kayaker where 30% of the water jags into the main plummet at a 70% angle just past the undercut. The passage is narrow but it would be satisfying!

Below this there are more Class II rapids and then the takeout in Ghent, immediately after the bridge on river left behind an old brick building that was once an insane asylum and is now a furniture showroom. We parked our shuttle car in the neighboring post office lot. I don’t know the owner of the building, but from various associations believe him to be a reasonable guy!

Below Ghent are a few miles of sycamore bottom lands with endless strainers, eventually leading to the Kinderhook. We have run this as far as route 203. Beautiful but not recommended.

 

 

Capital Region Area Reaches

Basic Creek                                    Batten Kill                                         Claverack Creek 

Cobleskill Creek                             Fox Creek                                         Hannacrois Creek 

Hoosic                                            Hudson (Lock 2)                               Kinderhook Creek  (1.) 

Kinderhook Creek  (2.)                   Kinderhook Creek  (3.)                      Kline Kill 

Normans Kill (1.)                            Normans Kill (2.)                                North Chuctanunda Creek 

Mohawk (Upper Cohoes Wave)     Mohawk (Cohoes Wave)                   Poesten Kill (0.) 

Poesten Kill (1.)                             Poesten Kill (2.)                                 Quacken Kill  

Schoharie Creek                            Stony Kill                                           Wyant's Kill 

 

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Army Corps Study Threatens Lehigh River Boating

1/3/2020
Bob Nasdor

Paddlers on the Lehigh River below the Francis E. Walter Dam and Reservoir are concerned that a planned study by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and its partners, the Delaware River Basin Commission (DRBC) and the New York City Department of Environmental Protection will lead to a reduction in whitewater boating opportunities on the Lehigh. The study will evaluate the feasibility of various alternatives to optimize project operation. Aside from the project's authorized primary missions of flood risk management and recreation, the study will also consider water supply and water quality, to identify possible improvements to the existing structure, infrastructure, and operations that will support current and future demands within the region. The Army Corps is holding a public meeting on January 9, 2020 at the Mountain Laurel Resort in White Haven, PA from 6-8 p.m. to explain the study and hear public comments. American Whitewater, Appalachian Mountain Club, and other organizations are expected to file comments with the Army Corps prior to the September 29th deadline in order to share our concerns about the study and potential impacts on boating, the outdoor recreation economy, and the Delaware RIver Basin. We encourage our members to attend the public meeting to voice their concerns.




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Moose River Video

1/18/2011
Mark Singleton

2010 marked the 25th anniversary of protecting the Black and Moose rivers!  View an online video documentary on the Moose River and the early role that American Whitewater played in protecting this amazing river.

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Revision #Revision DateAuthorComment
1200621 09/07/11 Matt Muir Added description from post-Irene run.
1200611 09/07/11 Matt Muir n/a
1200612 09/07/11 Matt Muir New reach
1200614 09/07/11 Matt Muir Enabled directions.
1206286 04/21/16 Alex Barham Added local info