Rocky Broad - 2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock


Rocky Broad, North Carolina, US

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2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock

Usual Difficulty IV-V (for normal flows)
Length 3.5 Miles
Avg. Gradient 132 fpm
Max Gradient 200 fpm

(RM) Redneck Falls


(RM) Redneck Falls
Photo by Rob Maxwell @ 4.1

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
Broad River at highway 9 near Chimney Rock
noaa-llbn7 2.87 - 5.00 ft IV-V 02h42m ~ 3.6 ft (running)
Roughly running 2.88 = 3.6 ft on the bridge gauge This is downstream of the bridge gauge, add about 0.7 ft to this gauge to get an approximate paddler's gauge


River Description

Leland Davis put together a video walkthrough of a good portion of the rapids on this run.

The run is composed of continuous boulder drops and runs thru downtown Chimney Rock, NC. The takeout is a small park on river left. It's clearly visible from the road after driving through the center of Chimney Rock. It has multiple dirt parking spots for vehicles and good river access.

Be on the look out when paddling this section as several rapids have some kind of undercut or sieve and wood will often lodge in various rapids.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2013-12-09 21:03:57

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Lower Rocky Broad Gauge

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Lower Rocky Broad Gauge

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Lower Rocky Broad

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Lead in Rapid to Redneck

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Boof 1

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Boof 2

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Slot

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A-Frame

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Last Rapid

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Put in

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Take out

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Redneck Falls

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(RM) Put-In Parking

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(RM) Louie on LRB

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(RM) Redneck Falls

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Redneck

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Standard Fare

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Rocky Broad Boogie

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Redneck Meltdown

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Below the Squeeze

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David Long @ Redneck

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David Long @ The Slide

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David Long @ A-Frame

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David Long Lower Rocky Broad

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David Long @ Alice In Wonderland

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Rocky Broad River Bridge Gauge

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Rocky Broad Bridge Gauge Closeup

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Rocky Broad Takeout

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A-Frame Rapid

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Seal Launch at Portage

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Seal Launch at Portage

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Hit the Clit Nick

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

As of December 2013, a new gauge has been added to the Rocky Broad River: Broad River at highway 9 near Chimney Rock. However, correlations between this new gauge and the old gauge(s) are unclear.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
Broad River at highway 9 near Chimney Rock
noaa-llbn7 2.87 - 5.00 ft IV-V 02h42m ~ 3.6 ft (running)
Roughly running 2.88 = 3.6 ft on the bridge gauge
This is downstream of the bridge gauge, add about 0.7 ft to this gauge to get an approximate paddler's gauge
RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
2.87 -5.00 ft barely runnable-high runnable IV-V Roughly running 2.88 = 3.6 ft on the bridge gauge

Report - Reports of Rocky Broad 2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Rocky Broad [NC] Redneck Meltdown 4.5 Internet Matthew Christie
Rocky Broad [NC] (RM) Louie on LRB 4.1 Robert Maxwell
4y344d05h38m @Rocky Broad 2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Seal Launch at Portage n/a John Dowse
4y344d05h39m @Rocky Broad 2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Seal Launch at Portage n/a John Dowse
4y344d05h41m @Rocky Broad 2. Lower, Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Hit the Clit Nick n/a John Dowse
8y147d00h00m @Rocky Broad 2. Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] A-Frame Rapid n/a Jeff Paine
8y147d00h02m @Rocky Broad 2. Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Rocky Broad Takeout n/a Jeff Paine
8y147d00h04m @Rocky Broad 2. Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Rocky Broad Bridge Gauge Closeup n/a Jeff Paine
8y147d00h09m @Rocky Broad 2. Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Rocky Broad River Bridge Gauge n/a Jeff Paine
8y214d08h10m @Rocky Broad 2. Along Route 64/74 to Lake Lure at Chimney Rock [NC] Lower Rocky Broad n/a royce cowan
> 10 years Lower Rocky Broad [NC] Take out 3.44 mike lewis

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User Comments

Users can submit comments.
March 29 2013 (1853 days ago)
Harrison MetzgerDetails
PLEASE NOTE: I had the level very,
very wrong in my long trip report. It was
3.78 on the bridge gauge, NOT 4.78,
which would make a world of
difference on either the Upper or the
Lower! The online gauge said 4.4.
November 18 2009 (3080 days ago)
x (1)
The usgs gage Cove Ck near Lake Lure should be a gage of interest. The cfs/sq. mi ratios are the
same as the Rocky Broad according to usgs archival data. Furthermore the Cove Ck gage adjoins the
Rocky Broad and has the same drainage basin size of the lower Rocky Broad or about 79 sq. mi. with
and average output of about 139 cfs. The upper Rocky Broad drainage is much smaller or about 40 sq.
mi.. 200 cfs for the lower RB and 300 for upper should work. It is no more of a leap to use Cove Ck
for the Rocky Broad as it is the use Ivy River gage for Big Laurel Ck.
August 16 2007 (3905 days ago)
x (1)
at this time appox. 3-strainers in the lower RB. IS there any way we can as boaters , work to
legally to remove these. it would not only be of benefit to paddlers , tubers ,swimmers ect. But
also to the community at large.We all would like to see heavy rains able to run to the lake
unobstructed from debris and strainers. We have a group of paddlers with the means and ability to
help remove these. who would we contact to help with this in the town of Chimmney Rock. Any
comments on how to accomlish this would be appreicated. Reply to padddlehead7 @yahoo.com
April 26 2005 (4747 days ago)
Dana Culbreth and Will HannaDetails
HEADS UP!
Not sure of what they are planning to do long term yet. But the access to the river has been cut
off at several spots. There is a temporary bridge that is bad news. What may be worse however is
that they have erected a fence on river left keeping people from accessing the river at "The
Gauntlet" and "Franks/Redneck Falls". Redneck Falls is often portaged even when
there is enough water. At lower flows, it is a mandatory portage/seal launch. If their plan is to
make this area a private access point for the landowner. (Already no trespassing signs) There will
no longer be any place to scout these rapids, let alone portage.
To anyone paddling The Lower Rocky Broad. Remain conscious of the fact that our access here is
already limited. Please be extra considerate to the folks that live over there. Do not argue with
the locals nor do anything to provoke the people of Chimney Rock into developing a bad taste for
kayakers. I paddle there several times a month and never have any trouble. I'm trying to find out
what the ____ is going on with these new developers. I wrote AW about this and I'm sure it will get
worked out. "IF" that is, nobody screws it up before we get to the truth of the matter.
Get out and go creeking.
Peace,
JAH WILL
February 7 2005 (4825 days ago)
Cooper LamblaDetails
The new pics are good, a couple of things. redneck falls or franks as we call it is super shity.
portage on river right and seal launch off the biggest boulder there, It's way more fun than
scraping down the drop. Also the real estate office near the put-in is super cool, the nice folks
there are letting my buddies and I put in on their property. Change and everything else discretly,
and still park in the pictured lot, but you can put-in there, just be super cool, clean and well
mannered. I know Kayakers are already clean cut and all that, just got to be careful.haha, have fun
out there!! it's a fun place!
October 5 2004 (4950 days ago)
BradRDetails

From Canoeman on Boatertalk:
My first time on the Rocky Broad! (TR, very long.) New

Forum: BoaterTalk
Date: Oct 04 2004, 17:30 GMT
From: canoeman

Fortunate as I am to work in Hendersonville, N.C., center of the Southeastern paddling universe,
there are two runs within 20 minutes of my office that I have avoided. One is the Narrows, which I
still don't have any plans to run. The other was, until yesterday, the Rocky Broad.

Actually, the RB has been on my to-do list for years, along with the Watauga. And as a new dad of a
baby girl, now a toddler, close-to-home runs are at a premium for me. So in addition to my favorite
creek, the North Fork of the French Broad, I have started looking at the West Fork and the Upper
Rocky Broad.
Unfortunately, the Upper was too low to run this weekend. But I got over the mental hump about
running the Lower. So I called my friend Will (Slave2H2O) and asked him if he would be willing to
lead a few newbies down. That would be me and my friend Stephen, a C-boater, and another very hard
core open boater I have recently started paddling with, Pat.

Thanks to Frances, Ivan and Jeanne, I have gotten in a half dozen runs on the North Fork in
September in both canoe and C-1 and was primed for something new. Also I ran the Upper Davidson
earlier in the month with my friend Doug Bonnoitt. When Doug said he had done the Rocky Broad three
or four times and loved it, I thought, that's it
September 6 2004 (4979 days ago)
Cooper LamblaDetails
Will Hanna And I checked out the Rocky Broad one day in the spring of 04'. The Internet gauge,
(http://www.afws.net/data/nc/henderson.htm) read 4.0 on the Bat Cave Gauge. When we got there the
bridge gauge read 3.6 I'd say this is the minimum. It was very low, but you could run all of the
rapids but one. Put in at or below the bridge in Bat Cave and go down as far as you want. Will and
I did one section of about a mile I think, and just kept hiking back up the road to the top. Close
to the start there is a drop that ends with a monster tree blocking the whole river, there is no
way to get around it in a boat, but once you go over the lip of the drop you'll know you need to to
get to the bank before the log, which is possible, you can still run the drop, just know that you
need to be aware. A little ways down there is a slide that has a bir rock in the middle, then more
fun slots and drops. It's all super technical, and tons of sieves. the last rapid of the section we
ran was the biggest, it was the steepest drop of the run, scout on the left. The drop below this
slide/drop thing was too low to run. Good luck, hopefully I can get back to have a more in depth
report with pics.
June 10 2003 (5433 days ago)
BradRDetails
from RBP:

Search Result 3
From: Chris Bell (bell@unca.edu)
Subject: Re: Flood Hits Rocky Broad
View: Complete Thread (3 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
Date: 1996/09/06


Chris Bell wrote:
>
> A friend called me moments ago to tell me that the
> 11 inches of rain (yes, that's eleven inches) the
> Rocky Broad (NC) basin received in 3 hours last
> night (yes, that's three hours) wiped out at least
> one of its bridges (the one to the campground on
> river right with the nice slot move on river
> left above it). Part of the road is reported to
> be washed out as well. John is on his way to
> check out the damage first hand. Oh, and last
> night's rain is not Fran-related -- the hurricane
> isn't expected to reach the coast until late
> tonight and we in the mountains won't feel its
> effects until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.
> YOW! Don't expect me on the Gauley this weekend...

John last night and the Asheville-Citizen Times this
morning confirmed all of the above and more. Eleven
inches of rain did fall in three hours, seventeen
inches in 24. Other than the volume, the rainfall
was pretty typical for the WNC mountains this time
of year in that places 30 minutes from ground zero
received no rain at all!

At least one bridge was washed out, a restaurant
was washed into the river and was last seen in Lake
Lure, mudslides have closed the road between Bat
Cave and Chimney Rock, numerous homes have been
flooded and some knocked off their foundations,
etc., etc.

John tried to run the river yesterday afternoon
(it had dropped to a very reasonable but pushy
+11 inches) but was "ordered off by a bunch of
rednecks in pickup trucks yelling something
about the river being closed and paddlers being
subject to arrest." Given that campers were
still stranded at the time and the "rednecks"
were no doubt the local rescue crew, I think
it wise that John and his boating buddy didn't
press the issue. Most local rescue squads are
next to useless in river rescue situations
(a problem Slim Ray is working to address in
our area) and it is incredibly unlikely that
John would have gotten into a situation
requiring their "services," but they didn't
know that and they do know enough to know that
swiftwater rescues are extremely dangerous
(even more so for them!). My sympathy is
with the rescue squad. It's not like the
Rocky Broad won't be running at + 11 again in
the near future...

Oh, and Fran has missed us entirely, so maybe
you will catch me on the Gauley this weekend!

-- Chris
June 9 2003 (5434 days ago)
BradRDetails
sept 1996 was the flood that last changed the riverbed.
June 9 2003 (5434 days ago)
BradRDetails
flood warning update
http://www.fema.gov/regions/iv/1998/r4_038.shtm
June 8 2003 (5435 days ago)
BradRDetails
Big boulder rapids. With really big boulders. Underwent major changes during a 1996 floods. Some
very hard moves in the rapids. At higher flows it starts looking like the NF Payette. Big, steep
and continuous. A swim could really suck, and you would probably not get your boat back until it
hit the lake.

Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0PutinN/APutin Photo
0.1First SlideN/A
0.2Apple Orchard SlideN/APhoto
0.3Banana HammockN/A
0.4Pocket HoleN/A
0.5The Boulder AlleyN/A
0.6SpectacleN/A
0.7RedneckN/APhoto
0.7Walker Falls5.1Hazard
0.8The HeinN/A
0.9A-FrameN/APhoto
1.0Sieve CityN/APhoto
1.1Rumbling Bald RapidN/A
1.2TakeoutN/ATakeout Photo

Rapid Descriptions

Putin (Class N/A)

(RM) Put-In Parking

(RM) Put-In Parking
Photo by Rob Maxwell @ 4.1


First Slide (Class N/A, Mile 0.1)

Start center, heading left at the bottom of the slide.



Apple Orchard Slide (Class N/A, Mile 0.2)

David Long @ The Slide

David Long @ The Slide
Photo by Royce Cowan taken 09/25/09

Formerly known as "Roostertail Slide"

Used to have a large rooster tail feature on it before being removed in a flood.



Banana Hammock (Class N/A, Mile 0.3)

Go left, sieves to the right.



Redneck (Class N/A, Mile 0.7)

Lead in Rapid to Redneck

Lead in Rapid to Redneck
Photo of Lower Rocky Broad by Mike Lewis taken 12/27/04 @ 3.44


Walker Falls (Class 5.1, Mile 0.7)

Ugly sieve pile. Portage river right and seal launch in off of the top of the large rock. Site of a fatality. Has seen some descents.



A-Frame (Class N/A, Mile 0.9)

A-Frame Rapid

A-Frame Rapid
Photo taken 12/02/09


Sieve City (Class N/A, Mile 1.0)

David Long @ Alice In Wonderland

David Long @ Alice In Wonderland
Photo by Royce Cowan taken 09/25/09

Also sometimes called "Alice in Woderland"



Takeout (Class N/A, Mile 1.2)

Rocky Broad Takeout

Rocky Broad Takeout
Photo taken 12/02/09



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