Esopus Creek - 3) Phoenicia to Boiceville


Esopus Creek, New York, US

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3) Phoenicia to Boiceville

Usual Difficulty II+ (for normal flows)
Length 5.5 Miles

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
ESOPUS CREEK AT COLDBROOK NY
usgs-01362500 5.00 - 8.00 ft II+ 01h27m 6.97 ft (running)


River Description

Strainer Warning!
"pgw," on the Northeast Paddlers' Message Board, related in part, on 7/16/01:
"We paddled the Esopus Sat, July 14 with its scheduled water release and noted a large pine tree strainer on river left appr'x 100 yards above the Woodland Valley Road Bridge (which is just above the slalom course at the old 'RailRoad Rapid'), Phoenicia, NY. The strainer extends fully across the river channel from left to right. We noted this before driving up to the Portal at Allaben where we put in.
Someone posted a large wooden sign with RED letters on river right, 'Danger, do not go left, get out here'."
He went on to describe a close call with a tuber who unaccountably failed to heed the sign. Careful out there!

See ab257's Esopus Creek page.

 

[Ed note: This reach was originally the entire 17 mile upper section of the Esopus, overlapping the other reaches on the AW site.  The sections have all been renumbered and this section re-purposed to better match the descriptions in the guidebooks Northeastern Whitewater Guide (Bruce Lessels) and New York Exposed: The Whitewater State (Dennis Squires)--5/16/10]

 

 

Catskills Area Reaches

Basic Creek                               Batavia Kill                                    Bear Kill 

Beaver Kill (Delaware Trib)       Beaver Kill (Hudson Trib)              Beer Kill 

Beer Kill, W. Branch                  Bowery Creek                                Bush Kill 

Callicoon Creek, E. Branch       Callicoon Creek, N. Branch           Catskill Creek (1.) 

Catskill Creek (2.)                     Catskill Creek (4.)                          Claverack Creek 

Coxing Kill                                 Delaware                                       Delaware, E. Branch 

Delaware, W. Branch                Little Delaware                               Dry Brook 

East Kill                                     Esopus Creek (1)                           Esopus Creek (2) 

Esopus Creek (3)                      Esopus Creek (4)                           Esopus Creek (5) 

Hannacrois Creek                     Kaaterskill Creek (1.)                     Kaaterskill Creek (2.) 

Kinderhook Creek  (3.)              Kiskatom Creek                             Mombaccus Creek 

Mill Brook                                   Neversink (1.)                               Neversink, E. Branch 

Neversink, W. Branch                 Peters Kill                                     Platte Kill 

Plattekill Creek                            Potic Creek                                  Roeliff Jansen Kill (1) 

Roeliff Jansen Kill (2)                  Rochester Creek                          Rondout Creek (1) 

Rondout Creek (2)                     Rondout Creek (3)                        Sandburg Creek 

Saw Kill (1)                                 Saw Kill (2)                                    Saw Kill (3) 

Schoharie Creek (1.)                  Schoharie Creek (2.)                    Shingle Kill Creek 

Squirmer Creek                          Stony Clove Creek                        Ten Mile Creek 

Thorp Creek                               Tremper Kill                                   Wallkill 

West Kill                                      Woodland Creek                            Vly Creek 

 

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Last Updated: 2016-04-21 17:54:16

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Rapid Descriptions

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User Comments

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September 29 2017 (361 days ago)
mshmovie (150511)
Esopus Creek - New England Slalom Series/Recreational Release -10/7-8/2017 Approved Hi Folks, The
recreational whitewater release on The Esopus Creek for New England Slalom Series/Recreational
Release -10/7-8/2017 has been approved. Please note that there are downed trees blocking the part
of channel below Phoenicia that should be avoidable by anyone with reasonable skills; reports from
prior trips confirm this. I've posted details here:
http://670.marchollander.com/esopus-creek-tree-down/ Excercise judgement to ensure you paddle
within your own limits. (Take note of the NY Constitutional Convention Page while you visit this
site too.) My working group has agreed on a protocol for managing wood in streams that yeilds a
determination to 1) remove wood that's a threat to safety and ifrastructure and 2) maintain wood
that's good for the eco system. The trees referenced above are deemed a safety hazard that have no
beneft to the habitat. Over the next few months we hope to identify how to complete the protocol;
act on removing the wood deemed a safety hazard and hopefully identify a source of funding and
group willing to remove the trees with those funds. Stay tuned for updates as I have them, Enjoy
the creek for me as I continue to focus on improving my back and hip health. Best Regards, Marc
Hollander
August 30 2017 (392 days ago)
mshmovie (150511)
Esopus Creek - Labor Day Weekend / Shandaken Whitewater Weekend -9/2-4/2017 - Update Hi Folks,
Here's a nice update from Brenan that should provide prime conditions on the creek: "I'm requesting
a maximum flow through the Shandaken Portal. At the current baseflows and reservoir storage level,
that should result in a Coldbrook flow just around 900 cfs, maybe a little less (~885 cfs)." Have a
great time and let me know how your trips were. Best Regards, Marc
August 21 2017 (400 days ago)
mshmovie (150511)
Hi Folks, The recreational whitewater release on The Esopus Creek for Labor Day Weekend / Shandaken
Whitewater Weekend 9/2-4/2017 has been approved. Please note that there are downed trees blocking
the part of channel below Phoenicia that should be avoidable by anyone with reasonable skills. I've
posted details here: http://670.marchollander.com/esopus-creek-tree-down/ Exercise judgement to
ensure you paddle within your own limits. (Take note of the NY Constitutional Convention Page while
you visit this site too.) My working group has agreed on a protocol for managing wood in streams
that yields a determination to 1) remove wood that's a threat to safety and infrastructure and 2)
maintain wood that's good for the ecosystem. The trees referenced above are deemed a safety hazard
that have no benefit to the habitat. Over the next few months we hope to identify how to complete
the protocol; act on removing the wood deemed a safety hazard. Stay tuned for updates as I have
them, Best Regards, Marc Hollander
August 21 2017 (400 days ago)
mshmovie (150511)
Previous message of 8/4/2016 describing strainer at Uncle Pete's is no longer relevant; it's no
longer present.
August 4 2016 (782 days ago)
mshmovie (150511)
DANGER!!! Do not boat the Esopus Creek Downstream of the Bridge Street Bridge in Phoenicia. There's
a river wide strainer at the entrance to the rapids adjacent to Uncle Pete's Campground. There is
no portage option on either bank and the NYS DEC access points below Elmer's have man made debris
obstructions. A team of us are coordinating efforts to assess the blockage, try to get it removed
and get adequate communications out to the community on the web as well as with signage. Please
keep looking at these pages for updates (hopefully before the Shandaken Whitewater Weekend release
planned for September 3-5, 2016). Please don't explore this section by boat; don't become a
casualty. Do enjoy the river above Bridge Street (many reported clear boating from the Portal down,
but the safest part to boat is where The Town Tinker Operates). - Marc Hollander
May 16 2010 (3054 days ago)
Skip MorrisDetails
Paddled from the Allaben Portal to Boiceville today, 5/15/10. The reading was 5.7 on the Coldbrook
guage, this was a nice level with plenty of room to maneuver and lots of good sized waves and
holes. There was a river-wide strainer, just a short distance downstream from the Portal. It is
fairly obvious, and it was easy to get out in time to carry around it. However, shortly after
Elmer's Turn, right at The Sleepy Hollow Campground, there was a large (oak?) tree. This very
dangerous strainer can be seen from well upstream, but if you get too close to it on river right,
you will have no chance to avoid it! The tree extends from the right bank to nearly all the way
across. Plan to pass it as far left as possible if there is enough water, otherwise you will have
to walk around it on river left. [Note: Comment copied from comment in upper river section by
Streamkeeper since comment applies to both sections.]
November 23 2008 (3594 days ago)
x (1)
The maximum level of 6.25 feet (perhaps 1500 CFS) is wildly unrealistic. Typically that isn't even
enough to paddle the section above the portal. A much better reference is the guage at Allaben, a
bit upstream of the portal: http://tinyurl.com/2p9by7 I'd guess that about 400 is minimum, and I've
paddled from Big Indian at about 1000cfs on the Allaben guage. At that level it's mostly fast and
continuous, but not technically difficult. Figure class 2 to 3 waves and current, but not much
manuevering required to miss rocks or holes. As of late 2007 there are two river-wide strainers
that are mandatory portages. They can both be seen from county route 47, a bit west of state route
42. One is just downstream of the upstream fishing access, and the other is a bit further upstream.
Still further upstream, and just below the bridge on Fire House Rd there's a blind drop of 3 or 4
feet that should be scouted. Unless all the water is coming from the headwaters, 1000 cfs at
Allaben will probably mean 2500 cfs or more on the Cold Brook guage. That will make the rest of the
run fast and pushy, but for the most part it doesn't get more difficult.


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