"pgw," on the Northeast Paddlers' Message Board, related in part, on 7/16/01:
"We paddled the Esopus Sat, July 14 with its scheduled water release and noted a large pine tree strainer on river left appr'x 100 yards above the Woodland Valley Road Bridge (which is just above the slalom course at the old 'RailRoad Rapid'), Phoenicia, NY. The strainer extends fully across the river channel from left to right. We noted this before driving up to the Portal at Allaben where we put in.
Someone posted a large wooden sign with RED letters on river right, 'Danger, do not go left, get out here'."
He went on to describe a close call with a tuber who unaccountably failed to heed the sign. Careful out there!
See ab257's Esopus Creek page.
[Ed note: This reach was originally the entire 17 mile upper section of the Esopus, overlapping the other reaches on the AW site. The sections have all been renumbered and this section re-purposed to better match the descriptions in the guidebooks Northeastern Whitewater Guide (Bruce Lessels) and New York Exposed: The Whitewater State (Dennis Squires)--5/16/10]
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Basic Creek Batavia Kill Bear Kill
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Beer Kill, W. Branch Bowery Creek Bush Kill
Callicoon Creek, E. Branch Callicoon Creek, N. Branch Catskill Creek (1.)
Catskill Creek (2.) Catskill Creek (4.) Claverack Creek
Coxing Kill Delaware Delaware, E. Branch
Delaware, W. Branch Little Delaware Dry Brook
East Kill Esopus Creek (1) Esopus Creek (2)
Esopus Creek (3) Esopus Creek (4) Esopus Creek (5)
Hannacrois Creek Kaaterskill Creek (1.) Kaaterskill Creek (2.)
Kinderhook Creek (3.) Kiskatom Creek Mombaccus Creek
Mill Brook Neversink (1.) Neversink, E. Branch
Neversink, W. Branch Peters Kill Platte Kill
Plattekill Creek Potic Creek Roeliff Jansen Kill (1)
Roeliff Jansen Kill (2) Rochester Creek Rondout Creek (1)
Rondout Creek (2) Rondout Creek (3) Sandburg Creek
Saw Kill (1) Saw Kill (2) Saw Kill (3)
Schoharie Creek (1.) Schoharie Creek (2.) Shingle Kill Creek
Squirmer Creek Stony Clove Creek Ten Mile Creek
Thorp Creek Tremper Kill Wallkill
West Kill Woodland Creek Vly Creek
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Esopus Creek - New England Slalom Series/Recreational Release -10/7-8/2017 Approved
The recreational whitewater release on The Esopus Creek for New England Slalom Series/Recreational Release -10/7-8/2017 has been approved.
Please note that there are downed trees blocking the part of channel below Phoenicia that should be avoidable by anyone with reasonable skills; reports from prior trips confirm this. I've posted details here: http://670.marchollander.com/esopus-creek-tree-down/ Excercise judgement to ensure you paddle within your own limits. (Take note of the NY Constitutional Convention Page while you visit this site too.)
My working group has agreed on a protocol for managing wood in streams that yeilds a determination to 1) remove wood that's a threat to safety and ifrastructure and 2) maintain wood that's good for the eco system. The trees referenced above are deemed a safety hazard that have no beneft to the habitat. Over the next few months we hope to identify how to complete the protocol; act on removing the wood deemed a safety hazard and hopefully identify a source of funding and group willing to remove the trees with those funds. Stay tuned for updates as I have them,
Enjoy the creek for me as I continue to focus on improving my back and hip health.
Esopus Creek - Labor Day Weekend / Shandaken Whitewater Weekend -9/2-4/2017 - Update
Here's a nice update from Brenan that should provide prime conditions on the creek:
"I’m requesting a maximum flow through the Shandaken Portal. At the current baseflows and reservoir storage level, that should result in a Coldbrook flow just around 900 cfs, maybe a little less (~885 cfs)."
Have a great time and let me know how your trips were.
The recreational whitewater release on The Esopus Creek for Labor Day Weekend / Shandaken Whitewater Weekend 9/2-4/2017 has been approved.
Please note that there are downed trees blocking the part of channel below Phoenicia that should be avoidable by anyone with reasonable skills. I've posted details here: http://670.marchollander.com/esopus-creek-tree-down/ Exercise judgement to ensure you paddle within your own limits. (Take note of the NY Constitutional Convention Page while you visit this site too.)
My working group has agreed on a protocol for managing wood in streams that yields a determination to 1) remove wood that's a threat to safety and infrastructure and 2) maintain wood that's good for the ecosystem. The trees referenced above are deemed a safety hazard that have no benefit to the habitat. Over the next few months we hope to identify how to complete the protocol; act on removing the wood deemed a safety hazard. Stay tuned for updates as I have them,
Previous message of 8/4/2016 describing strainer at Uncle Pete's is no longer relevant; it's no longer present.
The maximum level of 6.25 feet (perhaps 1500 CFS) is wildly unrealistic. Typically that isn't even enough to paddle the section above the portal. A much better reference is the guage at Allaben, a bit upstream of the portal: http://tinyurl.com/2p9by7
I'd guess that about 400 is minimum, and I've paddled from Big Indian at about 1000cfs on the Allaben guage. At that level it's mostly fast and continuous, but not technically difficult. Figure class 2 to 3 waves and current, but not much manuevering required to miss rocks or holes. As of late 2007 there are two river-wide strainers that are mandatory portages. They can both be seen from county route 47, a bit west of state route 42. One is just downstream of the upstream fishing access, and the other is a bit further upstream. Still further upstream, and just below the bridge on Fire House Rd there's a blind drop of 3 or 4 feet that should be scouted.
Unless all the water is coming from the headwaters, 1000 cfs at Allaben will probably mean 2500 cfs or more on the Cold Brook guage. That will make the rest of the run fast and pushy, but for the most part it doesn't get more difficult.
2 years ago
by Marc Hollander
9 years ago
by Skip Morris
See the release schedule at the comprehensive KCCNY Release Schedule page.
For 2009, the releases are scheduled (subject to sufficient water levels) for:
Apr 8, 9, 11, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27, 28, 29, 30
May 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 28, 29
Sat/Sun, Jun 6, 7
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