Contents:OverviewFlow Study Completed! American Whitewater at Work!DirectionsScouting the Upper Gorge (and portaging around it)Conduct at Put-in and Take-outPut-inTake-outWhitewater Releases
Note: As of 2016/2017 the dam operators have fenced off the area around the gorge and do not allow access except during a single yearly scheduled release (see below). Running this section on any other day would involve trespassing. AW members are currently working to restore access.
A dam in the town of Schaghticoke diverts the flow of the Hoosic river to generate electricity, de-watering the gorge. When flow exceeds generation capacity (about 1600cfs) the remaining water enters the gorge and paddling becomes possible. The gorge drops about 150 feet in total, but most of that gradient (100 feet including the dam) comes in the first 4/10 mile. There are two distinct sections to the gorge, the upper and the lower. The upper can be run alone, it can be portaged and the lower run alone, or both sections can be done together. A trail runs through the woods beside the upper gorge all the way to The Big Eddy and should be used for scouting.
The upper gorge consists of a class IV drop, a class V waterfall, a section of unnamed class III+, and a final class IV. The first drop is under the Rte 40/67 bridge (see photo below "Under the Bridge"). This rapid changed significantly in 2015/2016 when the old bridge was demolished and a new one constructed. The class V falls follows shortly after (see photo below "The Big Drop"). The class III+ runout from the falls leads to the class IV "What About Bob?" which then empties into The Big Eddy. You can take-out at The Big Eddy and walk back to the top of the gorge, or continue down the class II-III lower gorge.
The lower gorge is class II-III and has several potential play spots. It runs from The Big Eddy to the Powerhouse located at the end of Powerhouse Rd. You can skip the upper gorge and put in directly at The Big Eddy (accessible by a trail) or run the upper gorge and continue down the lower. The first small play-spot is river left as you leave The Big Eddy. The first stretch of class II rapids is around a sharp left bend shortly afterwards. You will then pass under the white tubes and enter The Tube Rapids, a set of class III that ends with a large ledge drop and has some potential play spots. Afterwards you will pass under the Powerhouse Rd. bridge and a short series of class II to the take-out.
Caution: Most of the rocks here are sharp slate.
Flow Study Completed! American Whitewater at work!!! On June 10 & 11, 2003, a flow study was conducted by American Whitewater with the cooperation of Reliant Energy. Participants included members of the American Whitewater and the Adirondack Mountain Club as well as open boat paddling legend Jim Michaud. John Gangemi did a fantastic job organizing the event. He coordinated getting John Duncan and Jason from Sacandaga Outdoor Center to participate, and they were critical to the success of the flow study by providing shuttle transportation with their van and trailer. (Not to mention that Jason really helped me out by fishing me out of the whirlpool.) Thanks to Aaron for participating despite the last-second notice. (Sorry about the pieces of shale in your boat, Colleen!) Without the success of this flow study, we could not have demonstrated the whitewater potential of the gorge, and Reliant Energy probably would not have had to have any releases scheduled at all. Water was released into the gorge from the gate on the far river left end of the dam. Over the two days, four flow levels were investigated. Because of the location of the release, the rapids under the bridge (see photo) were not available. Until this flow study, it was not known what the exact potential for whitewater recreation was. As a result of the flow study, we know that the Hoosic Gorge is a fantastic whitewater resource! Every drop was run. Only one line on Big Drop was run, but it was run by several people. One of the rapids got a terrific name: "What About Bob?" Everyone had fun, and there were only a couple of swims.
Directions to Schaghticoke:
Directions are described in relation to the Rte 40/67 bridge over the Schaghticoke Gorge in Schaghticoke. Take I-87 (Adirondack Northway) to Exit 9. Head east on Rte 146 to Mechanicville. In Mechanicville, take Rte. 67 east across the Hudson river and stay on Rte 67 until you reach Schaghticoke.
Scouting the Upper Gorge (and portaging around it):
A trail runs along the upper gorge on river right down to Big Eddy. The best scouting of the major drops is along this trail. The entrance is down an ally directly across from the restaurant Sammy Cohen's in Scaghticoke. Park on the street not in the alley. The top of the gorge has been fenced off, and the entrance to the trail is straight ahead after passing through the fence gate. For those wishing to portage the upper gorge, continue all the way to The Big Eddy. Numerous sports along the trail provide good scouting vantage points of the river.
Conduct at put-in and take-out:
There is limited parking in the town of Schaghticoke and at the take-out. In Schaghticoke try to park on a side street out of respect for the locals--we want to cultivate a positive relationship with the local community. That positive relationship starts with you. On release day the restaurant Sammy Cohen's will sometimes allow parking for those who get a drink or meal afterwards. The United Presbyterian Church of Schaghticoke will also sometimes allow parking on release day. At the powerhouse take-out there is parking for only 5 cars, so be prepared to shuttle. Powerhouse Rd is dirt and goes over a one-lane bridge so don't plan on bringing a bus or large trailer.
There is a trail which runs down the river right side of the gorge. You can get to trail by taking your first right after crossing the bridge heading north. Street parking is available. There is an alley way across from the bar. Carry your boat to the down the alley. Just under the bridge there is a steep trail to carry your boat down to the drop under the bridge. During releases, start there. To get to the put-in for the Class III section at Big Eddy, continue to carry down the trail until you get to the river. Great views of the upper part of the gorge are available along this portage.
GPS coords (see below) refer to the powerhouse at the end of the gorge. From the gorge bridge, head SW again, and take a right on Chestnut Street. Keep bearing left to wind your way down to river level. Proceed along at river level to cross the Hoosic to get to the powerhouse. The two land-owners on this road to the take-out did not want to grant the public easement during the relicense process. The Federal Power Act requires public access to the project. Rather than force the issue legally we reached a settlement agreement whereby parking is limited to 5 vehicles. The objective of limited parking is to reduce traffic on the road to the powerhouse. Boaters need to be conscientious and respectful of this desire of the local landowners on this road. Coordinate shuttles with other boaters. Overflow parking is available at the Church on Chestnut street. Drive 20 mph or less on this road--speed limits in excess of this will jeopardize relations with these land-owners and potentially future releases. Be sure to educate other boaters that may not have read this web page or are slow to learn that their actions affect perceptions of the sport in general.
Whitewater Release Schedule:
American Whitewater negotiated five whitewater releases in the relicense process. These releases started in spring 2004. For the first three years there was one whitewater release annually starting the first Wednesday evening (5 PM to 8 PM) after April 15th. In year four, additional releases will be added (up to five total) provided twenty-five or more boaters attended each release in the year prior. In the event that ten or fewer boaters attend a release one release will be subtracted from the annual total. Upon two or more releases the schedule will alternate between Wednesday evening (5-8 PM) and Saturday (1-4 PM).
In 2011 a release was conducted after several postponements and no boaters showed up. As a result, Brookfield Renewable stopped conducting releases until 2017. In 2017 a release was scheduled for Saturday April 22nd. Fewer than 25 boaters came out which means there will be only a single release in 2018 (date to be determined).
The flow in the gorge is calculated as follows. The gauge at Eagle Bridge is multiplied by 1.254 to get the flow at Schaghticoke. The power company diverts up to 1640cfs to generate electricity. Any remaining flow enters the gorge. For example, if the gauge at Eagle Bridge reads 2000cfs, the flow at Schaghticoke will be 2508cfs. 1640cfs will be diverted for power generation, leaving 868cfs in the gorge itself.
During a release, the dam operators redirect water away from their power generation and back into the bypass (the gorge) until it reaches the recommended flow for boating (between 1200cfs and 1600cfs, typically 1400cfs). If additional water is available they will continue generating power. Releases continue for 3 full hours AFTER reaching optimal flow, at which time water will be diverted back to their power facility and away from the gorge.
Proposed Language from American Whitewater Comments on the Hoosic River Project, FERC No. 2616:
"Licensee shall make a whitewater release into the Schaghticoke bypass from the dam provided inflow to the Johnsonville reservoir is >638 cfs (this is using 1.254 as the multiplier) on the first Wednesday after April 15. If inflow to the Johnsonville reservoir is >1278 cfs (this is using 1.254 as the multiplier) then the Licensee can resume power generation with the excess water provided 1600 cfs remains in the bypass channel. If inflow to the Johnsonville reservoir is < 638 cfs (this is using 1.254 as the multiplier) then the whitewater release will be postponed until the following Wednesday. If inflows sufficient to trigger a whitewater release are not achieved by November 30th of that year then the Licensee has no obligation to fulfill this license condition for that calendar year. Wednesday releases will start at 5:00 PM."
Use extreme caution! Scout carefully during the releases!
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Cobleskill Creek Fox Creek Hannacrois Creek
Hoosic Hudson (Lock 2) Kinderhook Creek (1.)
Kinderhook Creek (2.) Kinderhook Creek (3.) Kline Kill
Normans Kill (1.) Normans Kill (2.) North Chuctanunda Creek
Mohawk (Upper Cohoes Wave) Mohawk (Cohoes Wave) Poesten Kill (0.)
Poesten Kill (1.) Poesten Kill (2.) Quacken Kill
Schoharie Creek Stony Kill Wyant's Kill
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The dam is just upstream of the rte 67 bridge.
This rapid changed significantly in 2015/2016 when the old bridge was demolished and a new one constructed. There are several potential lines through and this rapid should be scouted carefully from shore.
The put-in is just at the top of this rapid.
Immdiately downstream of the bridge is large island toward the river right. It is best to take the right channel and eddy out on the downstream end of the island to take a look at the Big Drop. At all but the highest flows you can scout and portage from the island. Make sure that you scout this from the carriage road (see: Scouting the Upper Gorge, above) to make sure that a portage is an option. The right channel route of Big Drop does not have a pool beneath it, but it is not a straight vertical drop. At higher water flows the landing is cushioned enough. At low flows, the landing will be too hard to attempt.
Latitude/ longitude coordinates for the rapids are approximate, from Google Maps satellite and terrain views.
Immediately downstream of the Big Drop there is another drop. There are at least 3 routes. Far river left is easy but it is only safe at higer flows: Scout closely from up close! There is a nasty sharp rock at face level sticking in the extremely narrow channel. The center channel is the most fun at moderate to high levels, but be sure to scout that also, especially at lower levels. The far right channel seems to be runnable at all levels. It is only way to go at extremely low levels. Beware of hole that may form here at higher levels.
What About Bob? is named after Bob Mackie. The beginning of the rapid is soon after the above unnamed rapid, but the tail end of the rapid can best be seen from the Big Eddy at the end of the carriage road. During the flow study we scouted and saw that, while runnable, the channel to the far river right is much more challenging than the center channel. Bob had decided to try to avoid the right channel. The problem is just above the rock that divides the river into those two channels is a funnel feature that really picks up speed through the rapid. Bob tried to make his way back to the left after the funnel, but failed. He was forced into the running the right channel. He disappeared from sight to all the others at the eddy above the funnel. Things went OK for him. I think he swam, but he wasn't the only one who swam at "What about Bob?" (I think I managed to stay in my boat until I washed into the Big Eddy before I swam.)
The Big Eddy acts as a take-out for the upper gorge, a put-in for the lower gorge, or just a nice place to catch your breath after running What About Bob? An access trail runs along river right and leads straight to The Big Eddy.
After the Big Eddy, there is a nice little hole on river left(depending on the level) for playing in.
After leaving The Big Eddy and taking a left turn you will encounter a long section of riffles.
The Tube Rapids begin shortly after passing under the white water tubes. There are several boulders here for ferrying back and forge, a few ledges and holes for play, and wavetrains at some levels.
A ledge forms a large hole near the end of the the Tube Rapids. Could potentially be access from downstream at a put-in on Powerhouse Rd just before the bridge. Might work as a park and play spot.
As you pass under the Powerhouse Rd. bridge you hit the final stretch of rapids, a scratchy set of riffles.
Take-out is at the powerhouse. Alternatively you can paddle 5.5 miles downstream to Lock 4 State Park at the confluence with the Hudson. Paddle from here is class I at best.
Due to recent construction on the bridge, the rapid below the bridge is no longer runnable. They dammed up above the normal line and the rest of the river flows right through lots of metal. Because there is a significant amount of construction at the bridge, any attempt to put in above the big drop will likely involve trespassing.
2010 Release: We're aiming for the Wed of April 21. (If not possible, release will be postponed until each next Wednesday until flows permit.) But we're shooting for the 21st if at all possible.
As anyone who's been watching the Eagle Bridge gage might have guessed (flow was a paltry 685 cfs this morning), tomorrow's whitewater release at the Hoosic River Project is officially postponed. We'll try again for approximately 1,200 cfs in the Schaghticoke bypass next Wednesday, April 26 from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m.
This year's (2006) release at the Schaghticoke Development of the Hoosic River Project will occur on April 19th.
Erie is currently shooting for a flow of 1,200 cfs in the Schaghticoke bypass reach on Wednesday, April 19th from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. The release is contingent on weather and river conditions and will be postponed for 7 calendar days (to the following Wednesday) if necessary.
For now please mark your calendars for the 19th, and, as the release date gets closer, Erie will be in contact with American Whitewater on a regular basis to communicate river conditions and provide additional details about the release.
We'll Keep You Posted!
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We have had releases on this reach but don't show any currently. This information is
gathered by the public. If you know about releases then contact us about them. If
you would volunteer to enter the releases, then reach out to us.
USGS 01334500 Hoosic R. near Eagle Bridge Interpreting Eagle Bridge Gage Readings: Multiply the Eagle Bridge flow by 1.254 to get the flow expected at Schaghticoke. Normally, when the flow becomes greater than the hydro plant's 1640 cfs capacity, the excess will spill into the gorge. For example: If Eagle Bridge is at 2000 cfs, expect flow at Schaghticoke to be around 2508 cfs, but only 868 cfs would spill into the gorge. For acceptable flow rates, the gorge can be separated into two sections: upper and lower. (See description below.) Because these two reaches are inseparable in the bypass reach from a flow perspective, the minimum acceptable and optimum boating flows need to be expressed in a range to represent both reaches.
Minimum flows in gorge: 800-1000 cfs
Optimum flows in gorge: 1200-1600 cfs
The amount taken in by the hydro plant may be altered during scheduled releases. For more information regarding gauge readings during releases, see the releases section below.
Caution: Any changes in flow, either naturally or through the hydro plant, will be greatly amplified in the narrow gorge.
Permits are not required for this reach.
Directions to Schaghticoke: Directions are described in relation to the Rte 40/67 bridge over the Schaghticoke Gorge in Schaghticoke. Take I-87 (Adirondack Northway) to Exit 9. Head east on Rte 146 to Mechanicville. In Mechanicville, take Rte. 67 east across the Hudson river and stay on Rte 67 until you reach Schaghticoke. Click here for a Google Map from I-87 to the putin.
What about Bob
What about Bob
The Big Drop
Lead in to the Big Drop
Upper Gorge 5 - What About Bob
Upper Gorge 4 - What About Bob?
Upper Gorge 3 - Left of the island
Upper Gorge 2 - Below The Big Drop
Upper Gorge 1 - Put-in
Lower Gorge 7 - The Take-out
Lower Gorge 6 - Class I-II finish
Lower Gorge 5 - Ledge
Lower Gorge 4 - The Tube Rapids
Lower Gorge 3 - Class II stretch
Lower Gorge 2 - First Rapids
Lower Gorge 1 - Put-in
Big Drop, Hoosic River
big drop on hoosic
Schaghticoke Gorge Map
Under the Bridge
Schaghticoke Gorge, Hoosic River
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Paddlers on the Lehigh River below the Francis E. Walter Dam and Reservoir are concerned that a planned study by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and its partners, the Delaware River Basin Commission (DRBC) and the New York City Department of Environmental Protection will lead to a reduction in whitewater boating opportunities on the Lehigh. The study will evaluate the feasibility of various alternatives to optimize project operation. Aside from the project's authorized primary missions of flood risk management and recreation, the study will also consider water supply and water quality, to identify possible improvements to the existing structure, infrastructure, and operations that will support current and future demands within the region. The Army Corps is holding a public meeting on January 9, 2020 at the Mountain Laurel Resort in White Haven, PA from 6-8 p.m. to explain the study and hear public comments. American Whitewater, Appalachian Mountain Club, and other organizations are expected to file comments with the Army Corps prior to the September 29th deadline in order to share our concerns about the study and potential impacts on boating, the outdoor recreation economy, and the Delaware RIver Basin. We encourage our members to attend the public meeting to voice their concerns.
American Whitewater has restored boater access to the Hoosic River at Schaghticoke through negotiations with Brookfield Renewable, operator of the hydro project. Brookfield had constructed a fence and locked gate that prevented paddlers from accessing the river below the dam. Negotiations with Brookfield over the past year resulted in a resumption of scheduled releases in the spring, and in addition, new procedures for boaters to gain access when natural flows are high enough for boating.
On Saturday, April 22nd, whitewater releases on the Schaghticoke Gorge section of the Hoosic River will resume after a long hiatus. The Schaghticoke consists of a Class V drop through the Gorge (for those into that kind of thing) followed by a friendly Class II/III section that can be accessed below the Gorge. Releases on the Hoosic are required under a settlement agreement with American Whitewater. Releases will resume on April 22nd from 1-4, and we need a good turnout from the boating community to increase the number of future releases.
Be advised that due to current river flow and weather conditions on the Hoosic River there will be no whitewater release at the Schaghticoke Dam this Saturday, April 23. Per the established protocols, the release is now postponed one-week until April 30 from 1-4 PM, once again river flow conditions permitting (i.e., allowing for the desired 900 - 1,600 cfs release)
2010 marked the 25th anniversary of protecting the Black and Moose rivers! View an online video documentary on the Moose River and the early role that American Whitewater played in protecting this amazing river.
The annual Hoosic River Whitewater Release into the Schaghticoke Gorge will be on Wednesday, April 21, 2008 from 4:00 PM to 7:00 PM. American Whitewater and Adirondack Mountain Club negotiated these releases through a multi-year dam relicensing process. The Hoosic has something for everyone: an impressive Class V upper section featuring a 30 foot falls, and a fun Class III lower section featuring numerous play waves and holes.
It is time once again for the Whitewater Release at Brookfield's Schaghticoke Development on the Hoosic River (Schaghticoke, NY). This year the release will be on the next saturday that sufficient flows occur. American Whitewater negotiated these releases, and we hope that paddlers enjoy them.
The annual Hoosic River Whitewater Release into the Schaghticoke Gorge will be on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 from 4:00 PM to 7:00 PM. Releases are dependent on inflow so be sure to check the gage and the AW page before heading to the river. While a short run, the Hoosic truly has something for everyone from Class II/III playboating to Class V waterfalls.
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