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Difficulty III at this flow (III-IV normally)
Length 14 Miles
Flow Range 2.80 - 8.50 FT
Flow Rate as of: 1 hour ago 2.14 [FT]
Reach Info Last Updated 08/18/2020 5:10 pm

River Description

Indian River to North River runs through the remote Hudson River Gorge. Difficulty varies with water levels.
This section of the Hudson is unique in that its release is by way of a tributary, the Indian River.
As of 2019, the releases from the dam on Lake Abanakee happen only on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday, between May and September.

The Hudson River is runnable without the Indian River release most of the year due to rains or melt. Rafts need the release at put in on the Indian River.
When the Lake Abanakee Dam on the Indian River isn't releasing, one can drive down Chain Lakes Road all the way to the Old Gooley Clubhouse, and put in on a path to the Hudson river. 
If the dam is releasing, the trip actually starts out on the Indian River which usually only releases from 09:30 AM until 11:30 AM.
Releases happen only on Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. Put in about a half mile down from the dam for the normal raft put-in.
There is a great Class IV+ warmup on the Indian (Otter Slide) if you start directly below the dam. Otter Slide has a slightly technical lead-in to a ~10ft drop at low water. During releases, this drop becomes a massive boiling hole. Beware of undercut rocks on river left, the normal line is right of center, where a small amount of water shoots through the hole.
Below Otter Slide, the river is nearly continuous Class III for a mile with a break and then close to a mile of slightly easier nearly continuous class III.  The hardest parts of the gorge are harder than the Indian and has no good egress, so if you are struggling on the Indian consider calling it a day. The road is close to the river just above the big island after the 1st rapid on the Indian and you can walk out from the confluence as well. Neither the Indian nor the harder rapids on the Gorge are good places to swim. 
The Hudson River Gorge is surrounded by Wilderness Study Areas.
At levels below 4 feet the river is Class III. At levels of 5 feet and above, the river feels like big water Class III+/IV.
Once the Indian makes confluence with the Hudson several rambling rapids welcome you to the Hudson Gorge at the Cedar Ledge.
When cliffs appear on river right be ready for the Narrows. From about 4 to 6' on the North River gauge you can expect the waves in the Narrows to roughly equal the gauge reading. If the gauge reads 4' you'll find waves about 4' high, and at 6' on the gauge you'll find 6' waves.
After the Narrows is Mile Long Rapid aka Carter's Landing.
The next area has several names and sits in the shadow of Kettle Mountain. Kettle Mountain Rapids aka Givney's.
The Kenyon Eddy is your que to ready for Givneys Rift Rapid (or Soup Strainer). This rapid is characterized by a hard right turn, and it continues for nearly a mile.

Then Harris Rift Rapid running along the Northeast side of Harris Mountain finishes in the regions known as Fox Den and Bob Cat Den.
Above the Boreas River within Harris Rift Rapid are several great surfing opportunities for rafts and kayaks in levels below 5 feet.

The confluence with the Boreas River enters river left after a railroad bridge trestle crossing above the river.

The last rapid of the run is Bus Stop - a river wide ledge with a  sneak river left. Center route is the stickiest part of this hole, while river right routes slide easy at 2500 to 5000 CFS.
After Bus Stop Rapid are three miles of flatwater to the takeout in the boomin' metro of North River NY on river right.
Use the River Exhibit area to take out.
(updated 7/14/2019) 

Rapid Descriptions

The Narrows

Class - IV Mile - 6
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Once you pass Blue Ledges you will pass a wave train on the right then the river narrows significantly and turns right. The paddle route is center with a sneak route to the right. Widowmaker dwells here.


Class - IV Mile - 9
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The river makes a sharp right turn dropping into Givney's rapids. Swirling currents at the top of the river.
 Begin Givney's rapids in river center then get left to avoid "soup strainer" which is a hole/pourover extending out to river center. Immediately after you pass soup strainer quickly move back to center as there is another serious hole just below and on the left that extends out to the center of the river.


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Mark Zak
1 year ago

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david meyer
1 year ago

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Justin Merkert
7 years ago

Ran this at 4.5 ish feet recently. If your like us and going read and run for ur first run watch out for widowmaker a nasty keeper hole in the center left of the river at the top of the narrows. It has a really strong strong re circulation with almost no foam. There is a huge pillow in front of it it's easy to see just don't mistake it for a good boof like we did. I managed to get out but it was extremely difficult.

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Alex Barham
10 years ago

I have run this river many many times with levels from bone dry to 9ft on the gauge, and find this to be completely hyped up. In reality with the exception of Soup Strainer and Otter-Slide there is little above a III on this river. Most of this run is read and run relatively easy moves. The left side "sneak" line on Grey Hound is huge, and the one on the right is easy if you eddy hop down or hug the shore. In many cases there are pools below the larger drops to collect swimers, but there are rapids that would be a bit more of a challenge especially as you are getting worn out towards the end of the day. If you don't know where to go follow the rafts, otherwise enjoy a NY classic read and run III/IV with characteristic long flatwater stretches.

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Norm Staunton
15 years ago

I can confirm the river-right "sneak" in Giveny's below 5 feet. The line hugs the right shore, way right of Soup Strainer. There are a few nice hits which are easily avoided or run, your choice. This line is definately easier than the center-left-center line and is probably advisable for newer paddlers. Above 5 feet the line is still there, but the hits become much bigger. Your choice where to go.

Gage Descriptions

The gauge is actually in North Creek which is about 5 miles below the takeout. 2.8 is actually too low if you miss the bubble from the Indian and can be rather scratchy even if you don't. Once it gets above 5.5 the run is pretty continuous. Above 7, you had better be pretty confident of your ability, as the river easily takes control upon the least mistake.

Directions Description

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Date Flow Result Factor  
2017-06-01 Medium Injury Read More
2012-09-27 Low Fatality Read More
1996-06-26 Low Fatality Other Read More
1990-04-28 High Fatality Cold Water Read More
1977-05-07 High Fatality High Water Read More



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Revision #Revision DateAuthorComment
1213133 07/01/19 Craig Irwin updated description
1212998 06/24/19 Steve McLuckie updated description
1206124 06/23/19 Craig Irwin Added local info
1209219 06/23/19 Craig Irwin updated flows, description etc.
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1213187 07/04/19 Craig Irwin updated description
1213312 07/14/19 Craig Irwin updated description
1191115 06/23/19 Craig Irwin n/a
1202368 06/23/19 Craig Irwin listed release days, New access to Gooley Club lands
1215778 08/18/20 tom Hart updated description
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