David Brucas shared: There are two sections to this little creek.
First section is from "Stone Dam Trail" (off North Lake Road) to the dam on Kincaid road. There is a little reservoir above this dam. River miles about 7 miles, (6 on the creek and 1 on the reservoir.) Looking at the topo map, it's flat the first four miles, then gets some gradient, then of course flat again on the reservoir. 8.7 driving miles one-way. There might be access on some of the smaller roads.
Second section is from the dam on Kincaid Road, all the way to where it dumps into the Woodhull.
This is a nice section. It starts with 100 yards of rock garden, then 2.0 miles of very flat, windy water with great views. At 2.0 miles, the water starts to move. About a half mile later you will get your first significant drop. Scout all horizon lines from this point on.
When you get to the last drop (2.9 m) above the bridge (3.0 m), we run it on the right, directly into the roostertail at the bottom; it sends you airborne but be careful of hanging up on the boulders 10 yards down.
There is still a big slide (3.1 m) after the bridge. The left is safe but a bumpy ride at lower levels. The right is safe too but wilder, at really high levels watch out. BE CAREFUL of a 8-inch piece of rebar/pipe embedded in the rock at the center top of this section. It is visible at lower levers (7 blocks) but not higher levels (5.5 blocks).
The confluence with the Woodhull (~3.3 m) is ahead, below the Woodhull's put-in rapid. [maps.goople.com terrain view mistakenly calls the Woodhull "Black Creek"] 2.8 driving miles one-way if you takeout at the Woodhull takeout lot.
Tug Hill - Old Forge Area Reaches
Beaver (1. Moshier) Beaver (2. Eagle) Beaver (3. Taylorville)
Black (1.) Black (2.) Black (3.)
Black (4.) Black (5.) Black, S. Branch
Cincinnati Creek Crystal Creek Deer River (Section 1)
Deer River (Section 2) Fish Creek, E. Branch Independence River (1. Upper)
Independence River (2. Main) Indian (S.Br. Moose trib.) Little Black Creek
Little Woodhull Creek Mad River Mill Creek
Mohawk (1.) Moose (1. Middle) Moose (2. Lower)
Moose (3. Bottom) Moose, Middle Branch Moose, S. Branch (1.)
Moose, S. Branch (2.) Negro Brook Otter Creek
Roaring Brook (Brokeback Gorge) West Canada Creek (1.) West Canada Creek (2. Ohio Gorge)
West Canada Creek, S. Branch Woodhull Creek (Upper) Woodhull Creek (Middle)
Woodhull Creek (Miracle Mile)
Google Map of New York Whitewater
New York Whitewater Paddlers Facebook Group
First section: "Little Woodhull Creek1: : II PUTIN" lat=43.4674, lon=-75.0589 into a flat reservoir and putin may be in the middle of the woods. Second section: "Little Woodhull Creek2: : III PUTIN" lat=43.455, lon=-75.1525
04-Apr-09 We ran the Little Woodhull into the Woodhull. The bridge at the Woodhull takeout was showing 5.5 blocks on the center pillar and the Black gauge was 8.9 feet. I estimate the level of the Little Woodhull as Class 4, and the Woodhull as Class 4. None of us ran Virginia's as it looks very retentive. One of our class 5 boaters ran the center power slide next to Virginia's (the rest of us "clucked".)
03-Apr-09 We ran the Little Woodhull into the Woodhull. The bridge at the Woodhull takeout was showing 7.0 blocks on the center pillar and the Black gauge was 7.0 feet. I estimate the level of the Little Woodhull as Class 3, and the Woodhull as Class 3. We all ran Virginia's no problem.
There are two sections to this little creek. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First section is from "Stone Dam Trail" (off North Lake Road) to the dam on Kincaid road. There is a little reservoir above this dam. River miles about 7 miles, (6 on the creek and 1 on the reservoir.) Looking at the topo map, it's flat the first four miles, then gets some gradient, then of course flat again on the reservoir. 8.7 driving miles one-way. There might be access on some of the smaller roads. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Second section is from the dam on Kincaid Road, all the way to where it dumps into the Woodhull. -- This is a nice section. It starts with 100 yards of rock garden, then 2.0 miles of very flat, windy water with great views. At 2.0 miles, the water starts to move. About a half mile later you will get your first significant drop. Scout all horizon lines from this point on. -- When you get to the last drop (2.9 m) above the bridge (3.0 m), we run it on the right, _directly_ into the roostertail at the bottom; it sends you airborne but be careful of hanging up on the boulders 10 yards down. -- There is still a big slide (3.1 m) after the bridge. The left is safe but a bumpy ride at lower levels. The right is safe too but wilder, at really high levels watch out. BE CAREFUL of a 8-inch piece of rebar/pipe embedded in the rock at the center top of this section. It is visible at lower levers (7 blocks) but not higher levels (5.5 blocks). The confluence with the Woodhull (~3.3 m) is ahead, below the Woodhull's put-in rapid. [maps.goople.com terrain view mistakenly calls the Woodhull "Black Creek"] 2.8 driving miles one-way if you takeout at the Woodhull takeout lot.
David Brucas shared: 04-Apr-09 We ran the Little Woodhull into the Woodhull. The bridge at the Woodhull takeout was showing 5.5 blocks on the center pillar and the Black gauge was 8.9 feet. I estimate the level of the Little Woodhull as Class 4, and the Woodhull as Class 4. None of us ran Virginia's as it looks very retentive. One of our class 5 boaters ran the center power slide next to Virginia's (the rest of us "clucked".)
David Brucas shared: 03-Apr-09 We ran the Little Woodhull into the Woodhull. The bridge at the Woodhull takeout was showing 7.0 blocks on the center pillar and the Black gauge was 7.0 feet. I estimate the level of the Little Woodhull as Class 3, and the Woodhull as Class 3. We all ran Virginia's no problem.
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Little Woodhull put in
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