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Difficulty III+(V)
Length 7 Miles
Flow Range 3.75 - 7.00 FT
Flow Rate as of: 1 hour ago 1.45 [FT]
Reach Info Last Updated 04/12/2016 2:31 pm

River Description

Route 8 parallels this section, so there are numerous putin/takeout options at the various pull-outs.

Above Griffin Gorge the run is fairly mellow with a few short class-III sections. Griffin Gorge is located about 3 miles upstream of the East Branch/Middle Branch confluence. Route 8 veers away from the river and a small dirt road travels a short distance down to a bridge across the river. Upstream of the bridge is a small ledge which is easiest on the far right, with harder (class IV) lines on the left. After the bridge, look for two eddies on the right above the main drop of Griffin Gorge. These are easy to make at low water, but were definately interesting to catch around 14000 cfs. The main drop features a huge hole which may be boofable/punchable at lower flows, but take a look for yourself. Below the main drop, the runout to the gorge is fun at low flows, but features some huge holes at high water. After the gorge, there's a short reprieve before the last rapid on the run.

The last 3 miles fall around 100 fpm and are continuous bouldery class-III at low water or a huge class-IV freight train at high water (At 14000 cfs it took us 10 minutes to run the final 3 miles).  This is a classic Adirondack run and can easily be lapped multiple times.


South-Eastern Adirondack Area Reaches

Batten Kill                                          Beecher Creek                                         County Line Brook

Dunning Creek                                  East Stony Creek                                  Elbow Creek

Georgia Brook                                   Glen Creek                                             Holmes Lake Outlet

Hudson (3. Riparius to the Glen)       Hudson (4.)                                              Hudson (5.)

Hudson (6.)                                       Jimmy Creek                                             Mill Creek (Hudson trib.)

North Creek                                       Pike Brook                                                Piseco Outlet

Roaring Branch                                  Sacandaga (1.)                                        Sacandaga (2.)

Sacandaga, E. Branch (1.)                Sacandaga, E. Branch (2.)                       Sacandaga, E. Branch (3.)

Sacandaga, Middle Branch               Sacandaga, W. Branch (Upper)                Sacandaga, W. Branch (Lower) 

Sand Creek                                       Schroon (Starbuckville to Riverbank)         Schroon (Warrensburg to Thurman Station)

Stony Creek (1.)                                 Stony Creek (2.)                                    Tenant Creek

Wolf Creek


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Rapid Descriptions


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Andrew Stuart
6 years ago

Ran this when the gauge at Hope was 9700 and the Hudson was at 8.5', putting in just below Griffin Gorge. What a ride! It was 3 miles of nearly non-stop huge waves with a few holes thrown in for good measure, but easily boat scouted and avoidable. There are a couple of huge holes just below Griffin Gorge that are tougher to avoid and need to be punched or surfed out of. Or if you're like me, they require a few combat rolls due to poor sidesurfing technique.

Gage Descriptions

The minimum flow is approximate. I've run it around 4ft. and felt it was on the low side, but would still be good a little lower.

Directions Description

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