Guest - USFS recreation area (Rt. 72) to Clinch River -- Guest River Gorge

Guest, Virginia, US


USFS recreation area (Rt. 72) to Clinch River -- Guest River Gorge

Usual Difficulty IV-V (for normal flows)
Length 8 Miles
Avg. Gradient 100 fpm

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Photo of Matthew DeLong by Gerald DeLong taken 06/03/06 @ 1 foot

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
usgs-03524500 300 - 1100 cfs IV-V 01h11m 221 cfs (too low)
This is bare minimum for getting down the river. We need your input to refine flow ranges and difficulties. Gauge (87.2 sq.mi.) is right at put-in, so will very accurately convey flow info for the whitewater reach.

River Description

The Guest River Gorge is the final half-dozen or so miles of the Guest River before it enters the Clinch River in the Upper Tennessee Watershed.

The Guest was originally called Guests River and is named after Christopher Gist, an early explorer in the Appalachian area.

The Gorge flows through the Guest River Gorge Recreation area, which also contains a Rails-to-trails style bike trail, which is wide and slightly sloping, and visible for much of the run. The trail is on River Left for all of the run with the exception of the first quarter mile of easy class I-II. Most of the run is visible from the trail or a short walk from it. The more difficult section (after putting in from 29 down to Whorehouse) is not visible from the trail, but can be accessed with a little bush-wacking.

FYI, there's also good rock climbing, trad and sport, on the cliffs you can see from the river/trail. Currently climbing is off limits in the summer months due to falcon nesting.

Overview of the Run:

The Guest has a “Bell Curve” style gradient: it starts out with easy class II-III rapids, moves into a consistent and sustained series of class IV rapids with one solid V, then slows back down to Class II and III rapids before hitting the flat water on the Clinch.

There is one mandatory portage on the river and wood is nearly always an issue. The run is easily navigable by experienced paddlers, just be sure to scout. It is also a great high water alternative to the Russell Fork Breaks section (about 1.5 hours away); and with a proper guide + scouting + portages, it can be a great step-up run for beginning creekers.

On the whole, the river is comparable to other river runs in the area, including the Powell and the Russell Fork. However, it is much longer and has more rapids than both of those runs put together. There is nothing quite as distinct and difficult as, say, El Horrendo or Triple Drop (on the Fork), but it is a long, chunky run with funky, creeky rapids. In general, I think it can be a mean river, especially to swimmers, and I don’t think it has completely mellowed out from when the railroad bed was blown into the river in the early 20th century. At high water, it is a formidable run with serious consequences (it is also fun as heck at those levels, just be careful).

There is a great video guide to the river on YouTube. I was not on this run, but it looks to be about 15-18  inches (450 - 600 CFS) in the video.

Gauge Correspondence

We are slowly compiling a correspondence between the relatively new USGS gauge and the painted gauge on the center piller of the US. 72 bridge near Coeburn, VA. Please check the level on both when you boat the Guest and post the correspondence in the comments, or email them to me. Actually, better yet, email me before you go and we'll paddle it together!

200-300 CFS = 0-6 inches on the center pillar: LOW

This is bare minimum for getting down the river. It is pretty difficult at ELF levels, and is not very fun. On a pretty summer day, though, it might be worth it.

I look at moving to the Russell Fork at these levels. If the Guest is a possibility, there should definitely be water in the Fork.

300- 400 CFS = 6-12 inches : Medium Low

These are low but still fun levels on the Guest. A good level to combine with the Russell Fork for a long but very fun day since the Fork has a probability of not being too high at these levels.

400-590 CFS = 12-18 inches: MEDIUM

These are some fun levels, and are the most typical for runs on the Guest. I will describe rapids below at this water level. Not a lot of push, but clean lines through most rapids. (*clean in terms of the Guest we should say, which is relative)

590-720 CFS : 18- 24 inches: Medium High

Very fun levels, but starting to get pushy. Pins (though always present) become less of an issue at this level, but holes start to get sticky. For an experienced, IV-V paddler with a guide and/or some lower water runs under their belt, these are GREAT levels.

720-1100 CFS : 24 – 42 inches. HIGH.

Starting to get quite pushy, and is scary in places. Holes are a big issue, and beatdowns are likely if you end up in one. A swim would totally and completely SUCK, and would be very dangerous.

That said, I’ve run it in these higher levels and it is a blast. I usually walk “28 and 1/2” at these levels, though.

Start looking for Little Stoney Creek to be a run at the mid to upper end of these levels.

1100 +: 42 inches +. VERY HIGH.

I’ve never been on the Guest at these levels, but I’ve walked down it. It looks quite scary when it gets to about 5 feet on the center pillar. I think it's somewhere around 10 feet that the sieve at 29 gets covered up.

It is definitely doable, though, for a team of solid Class V paddlers. Personally, I'd rather run Little Stoney.

Just a thought: It would be possible to set shuttle for both Little Stoney Creek and the Guest at the same time at these levels. The mouth of Little Stoney is only a few miles downstream from the Guest on the Clinch and at these very high levels, the Clinch is flat booking it so the distance between takeouts is negligible. Just watch out for floating cows, trailers, etc. on the Clinch.

The AFWS Fox Gap rain gauge has been out of service for a while and just recently came back on line. If it continues to report data then that's a good thing. An indicator of rainfall is the Divide Ridge rain gauge which is located one ridge over from the headwaters of the Guest. If it recieves a good amount of rainfall, the Guest is likely a go.

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User Comments

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December 26 2012 (2153 days ago)
Timothy McAfeeDetails
New AW gauge is up at the bridge on Rt 72. At 650 cfs, this translates to 2ft on the center pillar.
This level is a medium/high level for most mortals.
March 9 2012 (2445 days ago)
Timothy McAfeeDetails
When the Guest is running at a medium flow [about 1 ft on the middle pillar of the bridge], the run
is continuous Class IV+, and contains a mandatory portage about 1/3 into the run. AND you better
know where it is!! If you love creekin in the Appalachians, then find someone who knows the river &
the lines, and you will not be disappointed. Wood is a constant issue so be very watchful. There
was a massive snow storm in December 2009 that resulted in a lot of wood in the stream bed.
February 14 2008 (3931 days ago)
Chris GormanDetails
As of today there is not Significant wood in the Guest Gorge. For the record, Even if the Gauge
(powell near big stone gap) is on the downslope and only at 250cfs, the Guest is still very
runnable and not low at all until the end when the river widens a bit. I was very pleasantly
surprised today to find the river at 9 inches. Great run, Don't hear much about it though, wonder
why that is? I also found some Pictures of some other rapids here
April 6 2005 (4974 days ago)
Mike MorrowDetails
Gerald Delong and I ran this on Monday (4/4/05). Gerald said the right gauge was 14 inches. The
center gauge is difficult to read. It felt like 2.5' to me. The limbo log is still across the river
left channel of the island upstream of 29. Gerald raised it with rocks so we could get under it.
This probably will not be permanent. There was a new log on the right side of the 6 foot drop above
29 in the river left island channel. It is easily avoided as you normally run the left side of this
drop. There are still logs in the river right channel. It looks like they have shifted downstream
almost to the confluence of the two channels above 29.
June 2 2004 (5282 days ago)
Mike MorrowDetails
Mark Copeland, John Heffernan and I ran it Tuesday (6/2/04). The level was 3 feet on the center
pillar. The log on the left side of the island above 29 was still there. Do not run the right side
of the island. There have been strainers on that side also. We could not see if they were still
there yesterday. Also, there is a large hole as the river turns left on the back side of the
island. It would be difficult to punch and hit the last eddy before being swept into 29. This was a
fun but very pushy level. There are large holes and pour overs to avoid. Be sure to know the run
and what to expect before trying it at a higher level like this.
February 11 2004 (5394 days ago)
Mike MorrowDetails
Update on comment made below. The last two times I ran the Guest (since Januaury), we could get
under the log mentioned on the left side of the island. Do not go to the right of the island as
mentioned previously. There is a new strainer to the right. It does not look like you can get
around it. The portage around the strainer on river left is very easy on the left side of the
June 24 2003 (5626 days ago)
Mike MorrowDetails
Some friends and I ran this on Thursday (6/20/03). There was a strainer across the left channel at
the top of the island above 29 or Toilet Bowl. This is what I have always called the rapid where
the water goes under the two rocks on the left. You have to run to the right of the island. We hit
an eddy on river right just before the river curves back left above Toilet Bowl. We made the
portage on river right from there. There is a slot on river right that some people may run to avoid
the second part of the portage on the right. Beware, there is barbed wire across the river from the
right side to a rock in the middle. Very difficult to see. We were not sure how it got there. There
are also some limbs in the left side of the slot sticking out from under the rock. The level was
2.5' on the middle pylon. On the right pylon it was 1.5'.

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