Difficulty V
Length 2.54 Miles
Gauge Stonycreek River at Ferndale, PA
Flow Range 5.50 - 10.00 FT
Flow Rate as of: 59 minutes ago 2.54 [FT]
Reach Info Last Updated 05/30/2019 1:10 pm

River Description


Description: 

This is the Paint Creek in Johnstown PA.  The creek itself is highly damaged and polluted by AMD and other things.  Each year there is a Paint Creek pick-up to fish trash from the creek.  The creek can be a class IV to V run depending on levels. On a low day you can find teenagers swimming in a few holes on paint creek soaking up that AMD glory.

Paint creek flows after heavy rain and run's more often than the gauge is listed.  Typically if the Little Conemaugh gauge takes on rain, then paint more than likely runs, or if the Stonycreek gauge hits 5.5ft, its more than likely paint is running.

There is a painted gauge at Carpentars Park.  The levels are as follows:

  • Bare minimum (really jonesin' for it): now -16", was -12"
  • Low-med (most mortal's minimum): now -12" to -9", was -6" to -3"
  • Med (worth driving from a distance for): now -9" to -6", was -3 to 0"
  • Med-high: now -6" to 3", was 0-6"
  • High: now 3-6", was 6-9"
  • Connoisseur: now 6+", was 9+


There are times Paint Creek can hit 3 feet.  Recent video footage shows Road Hole turns deadly at this level, and probably even below that.  I would cut off Paint at 1.5 feet using extreme caution if attempting this creek at 1.5 feet.

Paint put in is typically just up from route 56 where Little Paint Creek meets Paint Creek.  There are 2 waterfalls just above put in that can also be ran.  Little Sandy's Falls (Little Paint) is the easier of the two and more rocky, but have witnessed both being ran successfully.  Hit your boof.  

Paint starts with "Deal-Breaker" and continues its steep decent under route 56 all the way down to the Stonycreek.  After deal breaker tons of ledges and drops all the way down to the first named rapid, Mousetrap.  You will go over catwalk falls, big falls, big sluice and road hole on your way down (descriptions in rapids).  Carpenter's park serves as its take out and has a gauge on the railroad bridge that spans it.

After Catwalk falls, there is a path all the way alongside via river left.  I believe it is a sewer pipeline.  Anything can be easily portaged via this route.  

A 15 minute hike from Carpentar's Park will also put you at the top of Big Falls, if you are feeling a littly ansy after your  canyon run and Paint is running.

When to paddle: 


Paint Creek season peaks in the Spring.  March and April are good months but it can run after significant rainfall.   Look for the Stonycreek Gauge to hit 5.5 feet or over 1.8K cfs.  The Little Conemaugh gauge may be better to go off of, if the Little Conemaugh is 9.5ft or higher, or rainfall peaks, Paint may be low runnable.  Paint runs more often than most people think, due to where it sits between the two watersheds.  Either watershed can take on water for paint to run.


Release timing:

There are no releases on this creek. 

Hazards: 

Major AMD and other pollution in this creek.  Don't drink the water.  Also be aware of potential strainers after stormy events and the winter.


Events: 


Potential for "paint creek race".

Directions:

You can access paint creek in Windber/Paint area.  If you are travelling via 56 south, take the Paint exit and make a right towards windber.  You should see on your left a bigger church with a nice parking lot that trucks sometimes park in.  You can park here and walk down to the area where Paint meets Little Paint, or run one of the two waterfalls on either stream.  Take out is at Carpenter's Park, where the Stonycreek Canyon take out is.


Shuttle:

From Carpenter's Park, follow SR 4022 (Cottage Ln.) all the way into Windber/Paint.  Make a left as it turns into main street and park at the church as your cross 56.  Cottage Ln. follows the entire length of Paint Creek.

Coordinates:

Paint Putin: 40.245079, -78.847503
Carpenter's Park Take-Out: 40.244544, -78.884373


Elevation Profile:

Put In: 1615.6
Take Out: 1301.9

Total Drop: 1615.6-1301.9 = 313.7ft


Mile 1: 1615.6 - 1489.1 = 126.5
Mile 2: 1489.1 - 1419.7 = 69.4
Mile 3: 1419.7 - 1301.9 = 117.8


Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMZLaKoZE0


For other streams in this watershed, check out:

Stony Canyon (III-IV)
Stony Gorge (IV)
Roaring Fork (IV)
Shade Creek (III-IV)
Dark Shade Creek (IV-V)
Clear Shade Creek (III)
Quemahoning Creek (III)
Little Conemaugh River - North (II-III)
Little Conemaugh River - South (II-III)
Little Conemaugh River (II-III(V))
Trout Run (IV)

 

Rapid Descriptions

Little Sandy's

Class - N/A Mile - 0
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10-12 foot waterfall, typically ran on the right.

Paint Falls

Class - V Mile - 0

Ran on the right, hit your boof or piton below.

Dealbreaker

Class - IV Mile - 0.1
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First rapid after putin, or after the waterfalls.  It has river wide holes all the way down, we worked our way from left to right.  There is a short break right before the tunnel, where there is a choppy rapid through the tunnel as well.  If you are intimidated by dealbreaker, you should turn around now! 

Drops

Class - III+ Mile - 0.3
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After dealbreaker are a few un-named rapids.  Some fairly straightforward drops, some that have some technicallity to it.  There is one with a rolling wave on the right, so navigate that with some precision.  It then turns into smaller bogey water until mousetrap.

Mousetrap

Class - V Mile - 0.7

The creek will split as you approach an island in the center. You can scout from the island, but to run it you will want to go left of the island.  Blind entry; continuous; one clean route (left to right). Also has been run backwards, sideways, and upside down – though not recommended. Note: Numerous pinning spots.

Catwalk Falls

Class - IV Mile - 0.8
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A short bit after mousetrap starts some waves and curlers upon reaching a scrapey cascading drop with catwalk/pipe above. Five feet vertical drop; muncher hole on river-left / middle; pool at bottom. Clean drop on river-right.

Mine 37

Class - III Mile - 0.95
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After Catwalk falls begins almost a mile stretch of class 3+ bogey water.  Just poke through using your best judgement as you will pass under a pipeline and go around Mine 37, and underneath another catwalk.  Eventually it calms down again before Big Falls. 

Big Falls

Class - IV Mile - 1.7

You will be aware of entry into this rapid when you see a huge round rock directly in the center of the creek. Wide-open visible line from left to right. Nice boof move.  Note: Watch the undercut far river-right.  Easily avoidable.  Can be scouted via river right.

Big Sluice

Class - IV+ Mile - 1.8

30 yards past Big Falls. Blind entry; almost vertical; rooster tail wave half way down; joyous “V” shaped hole at bottom; drops into a fast moving recirculating pool. This rapid has shown up in many nightmares. Recommend scouting.  Note: Low volume boats almost always come out vertical here.

Momma's Crack

Class - IV Mile - 1.85
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75 yards past Big Sluice. In the middle of a rock garden; deceptively undercut rock at low to medium levels (this undercut has held boats in the past).  One lost paddle in “The Crack” to date. Recommend scouting (though you may not even notice it if you are not familiar with it).

Road Hole

Class - IV Mile - 2
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House and road will be in front of you on river left. Creek bottlenecks into a recirculating hole; drops into a pool.  Depending on levels, can boof of the edges.  Undercut on the right.  Scoutable via left.

Take Out

Class - N/A Mile - 2.5
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The rest is bogey class 3, easier than the above bogey class 3.  Take out is at Carpentar's Park river left, or continue down the Lower Stonycreek to Greenhouse Park

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Directions to the put-in:  Route 56 near Windber to the intersection of route 601. Exit onto route 601 and go north about 200 yards. Put-in (bottom of the waterfall) is behind the Paint Borough Fire Hall  (left side on route 601). Must portage down a weed-covered bank.  Directions to the take-out (same area as Stonycreek River Canyon take-out):  From route 56 near Windber, take route 601 south about a quarter of a mile and turn  right down a short steep hill, over railroad tracks, and proceed about two miles to the bottom of the hill (road parallels the Paint).

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Pennsylvania Dam Removal Conference to be Held January 31st.

1/9/2004
Kevin Colburn

There will be a one day conference on January 31st in eastern Pennsylvania that will address dam removal and rehabilitation in the state and region. It is likely that this very affordable conference would be helpful to paddlers interested in working on dam removal projects in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. Registration for the conference is due by January 23rd.
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