Difficulty III-IV(V)
Length 3.5 Miles
Gauge Wills Creek below Hyndman, PA
Flow Range 2.50 - 7.50 FT
Flow Rate as of: 44 minutes ago 1.84 [FT] ℹ️
Reach Info Last Updated 04/20/2019 3:04 am

River Description


This river is a fun class IV with a road alongside allowing most of the river to be car scouted. There is one section which merits a close look, Yo-Yo Rapid, while the rapid itself has changed radically from the description found in most guide books, there is a difficult slot move in the drop just below the house size rock that use to be the main problem in the rapid. The river left slot is against the railroad retaining wall and is severely undercut creating a major problem if things go wrong The center slot appears to be the best shot from above; there are shallow rocks in the landing and just below the slot making the move more difficult than either the right or left slots. The right slot consists of a boof move of a large flattish rock and is relatively clean, however at high levels it becomes a large hole and there is a potential pinning rock 10 feet below with all the current from the slot hitting it.

YO YO HAS CHANGED AGAIN DO NOT RUN LEFT SLOT AS IT NOW HAS A 10 ft X 10Ft PIECE OF CONCRETE IN IT. THE SLAP OF CONCRETE SITS ON AN ANGLE CAUSING ALL FLOW TO GO UNDER THE RETAINING WALL.

Overall this a great run with a creekish feel, there is one other drop that is below the last bridge befor the take out, its is a river wide ledge that can be run easily tight on the right side or through a tough set of slot moves even farther right.

Rapid Descriptions

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Earl Baer
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1 year ago

Ran Wills on 3/4/2018. Level was 2.97'. This was my first run since the very significant change at YOYO. At this level is was straight forward, just point the boat down stream and hit the center chute. As mention by RNorman there is a submerged boulder in the chute. This boulder would most likely be a problem with any less water and if you flip roll up quickly or tuck tightly. The rapid may need a new name as YOYO just doesn't seem fitting now. Made it back to Wills 4/2/2018 Level was 2.98'. New log at the top right hand side of Railroad Cut Falls. Also a tree extending from the right side to the left side of the creek just above the first bridge. We were able to scrape over it on the far left.

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Jordan Fields
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4 years ago

Ran this yesterday from post office bridge down to the gooseberry swimming hole at 2.63 ft.... What a fun creek run!!!...probably just class III at this level but very fun picking lines going thru chutes!!!...had successful fun run and can't wait to do it Again!!!

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John Guetter
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7 years ago

Lost a Blue Werner Sidekick paddle just above YoYo on 03 03 12. Name and contact info are on it; pogies were attached; would love to be reunited with it if anyone spots it. We ran it at 750 cfs and except for the lost paddle, had an awesome run. No change in the rebar situation, so heads up through YoYo. This is a great creek! 04 22 12: Lost paddle is found and returned! Thanks to Vern, who found it while fishing, and to his paddling son Josh, who got it back to Ohiopyle for me! Thanks! John

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Chris Preperato
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8 years ago

The center line at Yo-Yo has changed for the better after all these spring floods. All the little rocks that used to be just upstream making it hard to get to the left side of the shelf are gone, and its now a straight-forward move to boof off the left side. Its possible the rebar is still in the hole there, we didn't see anything at 7-800cfs, but it may be just underwater. The right line still looks the same, though the rocks just downstream of the move definitely have some undercut/sieve-like formations

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Wayne Gman
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11 years ago

We ran railroad falls at 500 cfs on the hard left side. The second to last ledge hole is the crux of the rapid. Power through, keep the nose straight or you'll be back surfed right into a very retentive hole. Its harder to clear with speed than it looks. Have a throw bag there as its an easy rescue but horrible recycling. The last hole seems to be nothing when I've been there to actually boat the railroad at sane levels. It would be interesting for people to post their highest CFS that they cleaned this Railroad cut falls. Yo Yo is pretty easy to skirt right if you have any riversense of where not to be and when to scout.

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Nathan Blatchley
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12 years ago

3/6/07 - Yesterday a couple of us ran the bridge to bridge section of Wills (Fairhope down to first bridge). When we got to Yo-Yo we discovered that there had been a significant change to the drop A 10X 10 slab of concrete has fallen off the retaining wall on river left and settled in the river left slot. It sits at a 45 degree angle and now forces all of the water under the undercut retaining wall. There is no way to run the left slot and avoid the under cut or the half dozen reinforcing rods hanging into the water. The right slot and center slot were still available and have not changed. But given the nature of the left slot it is not a good idea to go left of the large rock above the drop even as a set up for the center slot as this move would require a boat length attainment above the left slot to make it back center. Nathan

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Nathan Blatchley
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12 years ago

The official gauge used to determine if its running or not has been switched from the CUmberland WIlls gauge to the Hyndman Guage at the end of the run. Minimium was set at 2.45, However, I don't have good data for determining the top end of the runnable, any help on that number would be appreciated.

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Nathan Blatchley
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12 years ago

As the person who wrote the original description above, the Class V is Railroad Rapid. It is above the listed put-in but part of the frequently combined Brush into Wills run.

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Robert Farmer
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12 years ago

In reference to a previous comment below, the Class 5 on this section is not the huge slide (Railroad Cut Falls?) above the normal put-in. The Class 5 refers to Yo-Yo Falls, especially if it has railroad debris in it!!! This has been true since at least the late 1980s (for proof, see Appalachian Whitewater, Volume 2, page 28---a description that, I think, was not written by Nathan Blatchley). The upper drop is not included in this section, even though it may well be Class 5 at some level(s). In my experience, this whole section is Class 5 when the water is high enough (when the big slide looked too insane for anyone to run). Or, if there is hidden debris, when it's low enough, too!

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Stephen Forian
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13 years ago

from the monacacy board reported by Steve Ettinger...
The drainage area of the Hyndman gauge is 60% that of the Cumberland gauge, which would suggest that the AWA minimum of 3.7=580 cfs at Cumberland would translate, on average, to 2.43=350 cfs at Hyndman. We ran Wills in 2004 at 2.55=410 cfs at Hyndman (with Cumberland at 3.82), and were a little above minimum, so I think 2.43=350 cfs would be about zero level.

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Andy Blum
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13 years ago

There is a gauge at Hyndman which gives more accurate CFS readings since its right at the end of the run. It can be accessed at the PA gauge webpage, http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/current/?type=flow

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Kevin Williams
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16 years ago

The (V) on this run is Railroad Cut Falls. The falls are about 400 m above the normal put-in (at the bridge) up the railroad tracks from where they cross the road. The river bends through an S-turn and then plunges over four distinct ledges for a total drop of 30

Gage Descriptions

A minimum of 0 on the visual painted gauge in Cumberland is required with anything over 3 ft being expert only (Class V according to Middle Appalachian River Guide)

A more accruate reading for what is happening on this run would be the Hyndman Gauge. As pointed out in the Comments, minimium for that guage would be roughly 2.5 for a very creeky ELF run. AN upper limit for this gauge has not yet been determined. Hwever it is now being used for this reach description

Using the Cumberland online guage, anythign over 6.5 would be expert only type territory.

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Pennsylvania Dam Removal Conference to be Held January 31st.

1/9/2004
Kevin Colburn

There will be a one day conference on January 31st in eastern Pennsylvania that will address dam removal and rehabilitation in the state and region. It is likely that this very affordable conference would be helpful to paddlers interested in working on dam removal projects in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. Registration for the conference is due by January 23rd.
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Revisions

Revision #Revision DateAuthorComment
1193095 03/05/07 Nathan Blatchley 11-8-2017 - added cumberland gauge as a supporting gauge - no report to summary page
1211968 04/20/19 Nathan Blatchley updated image position
1208457 11/08/17 Nathan Blatchley 12-5-2017 - removed test edits