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Difficulty IV-V
Length 4.5 Miles
Flow Range 450 - 2000 CFS
Flow Rate as of: 1 hour ago 26.2 [CFS]
Reach Info Last Updated 04/21/2016 2:54 pm

River Description

An instant classic prone to being chocked with strainers. Take the time to check for wood where possible before putting on. Otherwise enjoy the fast boogie water between great drops and be ready to jump out in a hurry if there is a strainer.

While there is no guage, locals will call the Remsen Country Bakery to get a visual.  Be sure to thank them by buying something when you go. (315) 831-2559


A helpful commenter wrote:

So Cincinnati is a go. You want to put in at the top bridge right before the first drop, which is a clean 18/20 footer with a lil hole at the bottom and a lot of aerated water. Then you have some class 3+ boogie time, some strainers, some footbridges you have to either crawl under or get out around. Then you come to the first real class 4 drop, the lead*in goes under a bridge and ends with a 6/8 foot ledge with a tricky move, pool after so you can collect your shit. Then some more class 3 boogie. Hard to catch with levels but more water = more fun. Be Safe.


An American Whitewater member reported an access problem here in October 2000. The member reported that a landowner strung barb wire across the river and built a very low footbridge that makes the river impassable at higher levels. Both are reported as being very dangerous obstacles. The creek comes up quick following hard rains and runs fairly often.



Tug Hill - Old Forge Area Reaches

Beaver (1. Moshier)                               Beaver (2. Eagle)                                 Beaver (3. Taylorville)

Black (1.)                                                Black (2.)                                             Black (3.)

Black (4.)                                                Black (5.)                                             Black, S. Branch

Cincinnati Creek                                     Crystal Creek                                       Deer River (Section 1)

Deer River (Section 2)                        Fish Creek, E. Branch                          Independence River (1. Upper) 

Independence River (2. Main)               Indian (S.Br. Moose trib.)                     Little Black Creek

Little Woodhull Creek                             Mad River                                           Mill Creek 

Mohawk (1.)                                           Moose (1. Middle)                                Moose (2. Lower) 

Moose (3. Bottom)                                 Moose, Middle Branch                          Moose, S. Branch (1.)  

Moose, S. Branch (2.)                            Negro Brook                                       Otter Creek  

Roaring Brook (Brokeback Gorge)    West Canada Creek (1.)                      West Canada Creek (2. Ohio Gorge) 

West Canada Creek, S. Branch                Woodhull Creek (Upper)                     Woodhull Creek (Middle) 

Woodhull Creek (Miracle Mile)


Mohawk Valley Area Reaches

Canajoharie Creek                           Caroga Creek                                  Cincinnati Creek 

East Canada Creek                          Fish Creek, E. Branch                     Ninemile Creek  

North Chuctanunda Creek               Nowadaga Creek                             Mohawk (1.)  

Oriskany Creek (Clinton)                  Oriskany Creek (Oriskany Falls)      Schoharie Creek 

Sprite Creek (Upper)                        Sprite Creek (Lower)                       Spruce Creek 

Timmerman Creek                           West Canada Creek 


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Rapid Descriptions


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Robert Yager
10 years ago

I question the use of the Independence Gauge for this creek. The Black River Hawkinsville gauge or the Fish Creek Gauge are both closer to the Cincinatti drainage. It jumps up quickly, and drops even quicker. Catch it hours after a hard day rain.

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Chris Morelli
10 years ago

group of 10 boaters ran yesteray 6/12 at primo flow, lots of strainers/2 low footbridges, other than that Fire Up the Brown.

Gage Descriptions

Squires' book says "if it looks low, it will be a lot scrapier than it looks."

Directions Description

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Moose River Video

Mark Singleton

2010 marked the 25th anniversary of protecting the Black and Moose rivers!  View an online video documentary on the Moose River and the early role that American Whitewater played in protecting this amazing river.


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Matt Muir


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