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Difficulty I-II(III)
Length 2.1 Miles
Gauge ~ BIG PINE CREEK AT PINE VILLAGE, IN
Flow Range 800 - 1600 CFS
Flow Rate as of: 1 day ago 207 [CFS] ℹ️
Reach Info Last Updated 07/14/2004 5:51 pm

River Description


This is a tributary to the more popular Big Pine Creek, coming in just below the initial 'park-and-play' ledge section of that run. It stands to reason that the Mud Pine must drop across similar geology and gradient, thus provide some entertainment as well.

I do not have first-hand knowledge of the run, but my recollection of the sketchy information I have received is that this river is a little less straight, and the rapids are a bit more succinct, as opposed to the Big Pine where the initial gradient tends to play out more as one long rapids (with individual playwaves and holes). This run is fairly short, and would mostly be done as a 'companion piece' to a run on the Big Pine. Additionally, the run (as listed here) is just to the confluence with the Big Pine. It will probably be necessary (or at least, most convenient) to float an additional 0.7 miles (downstream of the confluence to the next road bridge) for take-out. Or, continue the rest of the way down to the end of the (full) Big Pine run.

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Rapid Descriptions

Drainage: ~88 sq.mi.

Class - N/A Mile - 0
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Drainage area at our listed put-in is approximately88 sq.mi. (as calculated via USGS StreamStats Beta software).

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12 years ago

We went down Mud Pine last weekend (Aug 12, 2006) and there were a couple of livestock barbed wire fences across the river. Don't know if this is legal or not. As far as I can tell the legal navigability of Mud Pine has yet to be determined. Aside from that (and some low water) it was a pleasant trip.

Summary of Gauge Readings

*The cited gauge is for the N.Fk.Vermilion in Illinois, which is the immediately adjacent watershed to the west of the Mud Pine / Big Pine. It is relatively similar in size (to the Mud Pine/Big Pine watershed), and usually provides a pretty good indication of runnability here. Obviously, much will depend upon the track (and the overall width and size) of storms, so correlation is not assured.

This run should be possible when the Big Pine is at moderate-to-high flows. The Mud Pine would be floatable under the listed 'minimum', but is likely to barely qualify as whitewater. Similarly, the stream is certainly boatable higher than the listed 'maximum', which really just represents higher, pushier water levels.

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Gauge NameReadingTimeComment
BIG PINE CREEK AT PINE VILLAGE, IN
AW Gauge Info
207 cfs ℹ️ 41h30m Reference gauge (Big Pine Creek, Pine Village, 172 sq.mi.drainage) is ~2x Mud Pine watershed, so flow here could be half that gauge. Correlation not assured.
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Directions Description


Take out is more likely a bit downstream at a bridge.

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