Mud Pine Creek - Briscoe Rd to Big Pine Creek (2.1 miles)


Mud Pine Creek, Indiana, US

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Briscoe Rd to Big Pine Creek (2.1 miles)

Usual Difficulty I-II(III) (for normal flows)
Length 2.1 Miles
Avg. Gradient 10 fpm
Max Gradient 10 fpm

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
BIG PINE CREEK AT PINE VILLAGE, IN
usgs-033356848 600 - 1600 cfs I-II(III) 01h41m ~ 1700 cfs (too high)
Likely outrageously high. Big, pushy, wild. Experts only (or go elsewhere!). (Likely 800-1000 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding Reference gauge (Big Pine Creek, Pine Village, 172 sq.mi.drainage) is ~2x Mud Pine watershed, so flow here could be half that gauge. Correlation not assured.


River Description

This is a tributary to the more popular Big Pine Creek, coming in just below the initial 'park-and-play' ledge section of that run. It stands to reason that the Mud Pine must drop across similar geology and gradient, thus provide some entertainment as well.

I do not have first-hand knowledge of the run, but my recollection of the sketchy information I have received is that this river is a little less straight, and the rapids are a bit more succinct, as opposed to the Big Pine where the initial gradient tends to play out more as one long rapids (with individual playwaves and holes). This run is fairly short, and would mostly be done as a 'companion piece' to a run on the Big Pine. Additionally, the run (as listed here) is just to the confluence with the Big Pine. It will probably be necessary (or at least, most convenient) to float an additional 0.7 miles (downstream of the confluence to the next road bridge) for take-out. Or, continue the rest of the way down to the end of the (full) Big Pine run.

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StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2004-07-14 17:51:48

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

*The cited gauge is for the N.Fk.Vermilion in Illinois, which is the immediately adjacent watershed to the west of the Mud Pine / Big Pine. It is relatively similar in size (to the Mud Pine/Big Pine watershed), and usually provides a pretty good indication of runnability here. Obviously, much will depend upon the track (and the overall width and size) of storms, so correlation is not assured.

This run should be possible when the Big Pine is at moderate-to-high flows. The Mud Pine would be floatable under the listed 'minimum', but is likely to barely qualify as whitewater. Similarly, the stream is certainly boatable higher than the listed 'maximum', which really just represents higher, pushier water levels.

(Anyone having more specific information regarding gauge levels for this run is encouraged to "add a comment" via the button which appears under the "Comments" tab.)

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
BIG PINE CREEK AT PINE VILLAGE, IN
usgs-033356848 600 - 1600 cfs I-II(III) 01h41m ~ 1700 cfs (too high)
Likely outrageously high. Big, pushy, wild. Experts only (or go elsewhere!). (Likely 800-1000 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding
Reference gauge (Big Pine Creek, Pine Village, 172 sq.mi.drainage) is ~2x Mud Pine watershed, so flow here could be half that gauge. Correlation not assured.
RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
0 - 200 cfs extremely Low-somewhat Low I-II(III) Almost assuredly too low.
200 - 400 cfs somewhat Low-barely Low I-II(III) Likely too low. (Likely 100-200 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
400 - 600 cfs somewhat Low-barely Low I-II(III) Likely too low (Likely 200-300 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
600 - 800 cfs barely runnable-med runnable I-II(III) Low-boatable? (Likely 300-400 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
800 -1000 cfs barely runnable-med runnable I-II(III) Low-Moderate? (Likely 400-500 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
1000 -1200 cfs med runnable-a bit pushy runnable I-II(III) Moderate? (Likely 500-600 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
1200 -1400 cfs med runnable-a bit pushy runnable I-II(III) Moderate-to-High? (Likely 600-700 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
1400 -1600 cfs a bit pushy runnable-high runnable I-II(III) Likely high? (Likely 700-800 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding gauge versus boatability.
1600 -2000 cfs barely High-extremely High I-II(III) Likely outrageously high. Big, pushy, wild. Experts only (or go elsewhere!). (Likely 800-1000 cfs.) Help your fellow boaters with a comment or report regarding

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August 15 2006 (4329 days ago)
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We went down Mud Pine last weekend (Aug 12, 2006) and there were a couple of livestock barbed wire
fences across the river. Don't know if this is legal or not. As far as I can tell the legal
navigability of Mud Pine has yet to be determined. Aside from that (and some low water) it was a
pleasant trip.

Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0Drainage: ~88 sq.mi.N/A

Rapid Descriptions

Drainage: ~88 sq.mi. (Class N/A)

Drainage area at our listed put-in is approximately88 sq.mi. (as calculated via USGS StreamStats Beta software).




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 Briscoe Rd to Big Pine Creek (2.1 miles), Mud Pine Creek Indiana, US (mobile)