Esopus Creek - 1) Big Indian to Allaben Portal

Esopus Creek, New York, US


1) Big Indian to Allaben Portal (Upper)

Usual Difficulty II(III) (for normal flows)
Length 5 Miles

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
usgs-01362200 500 - 3000 cfs II(III) 00h36m ~ 128 cfs (too low)

River Description

This is the section immediately *above* the whitewater release section and only runs with natural flow. It's primairly a class II run becoming class III with very high water.


Put in at fishing access on county rt. 47 in Big Indian. Take out at Allaben near portal or continue on with more water if the portal is releasing.



Catskills Area Reaches

Basic Creek                               Batavia Kill                                    Bear Kill 

Beaver Kill (Delaware Trib)       Beaver Kill (Hudson Trib)              Beer Kill 

Beer Kill, W. Branch                  Bowery Creek                                Bush Kill 

Callicoon Creek, E. Branch       Callicoon Creek, N. Branch           Catskill Creek (1.) 

Catskill Creek (2.)                     Catskill Creek (4.)                          Claverack Creek 

Coxing Kill                                 Delaware                                       Delaware, E. Branch 

Delaware, W. Branch                Little Delaware                               Dry Brook 

East Kill                                     Esopus Creek (1)                           Esopus Creek (2) 

Esopus Creek (3)                      Esopus Creek (4)                           Esopus Creek (5) 

Hannacrois Creek                     Kaaterskill Creek (1.)                     Kaaterskill Creek (2.) 

Kinderhook Creek  (3.)              Kiskatom Creek                             Mombaccus Creek 

Mill Brook                                   Neversink (1.)                               Neversink, E. Branch 

Neversink, W. Branch                 Peters Kill                                     Platte Kill 

Plattekill Creek                            Potic Creek                                  Roeliff Jansen Kill (1) 

Roeliff Jansen Kill (2)                  Rochester Creek                          Rondout Creek (1) 

Rondout Creek (2)                     Rondout Creek (3)                        Sandburg Creek 

Saw Kill (1)                                 Saw Kill (2)                                    Saw Kill (3) 

Schoharie Creek (1.)                  Schoharie Creek (2.)                    Shingle Kill Creek 

Squirmer Creek                          Stony Clove Creek                        Ten Mile Creek 

Thorp Creek                               Tremper Kill                                   Wallkill 

West Kill                                      Woodland Creek                            Vly Creek 


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Last Updated: 2016-04-21 17:53:24


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User Comments

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May 18 2012 (2401 days ago)
Steve McLuckieDetails
It's also very easy to put in at the west end of the route 28 bridge that's right in Big Indian.
Put in on the upstream side, which is actually Birch creek perhaps 150 yards upstream of the
Esopus. You can then park in the small park by the east end of the bridge. You'll have some fast,
narrow stuff to start with, so be vigilant for strainers. At moderately high water I didn't think
this was much more than class 2, but a roll and the ability to stop could be very important. About
1/2 mile below route 28 is the bridge for Firehouse Road. Shortly below this is an abrupt drop with
a horizon line. I'm not sure if it collects wood, but it would be a very good idea to scout this
ahead of time. [Edit: Irene seems to have flattened this out. The current goes right, with a
pronounced drop, but not a horizon line. **I've only looked at it from the bridge, so it might be
harder to see from your boat.] I'd guess that 500 cfs on the Allaben gauge is pretty low (At 350
CFS on 5/17/12 I thought it looked like it needed another couple hundred CFS to be decent). 1000
was fast and fluid.

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