This is an obscure Class V+/VI- wilderness run. It has been paddled a couple of times but has never seen regular use.
Mostly I am putting this in the AW database to bring attention to that fact that it exists and that will help it get cleared of wood.
Also, if this has enough water the lower section definately would have enough and they could be combined for 10 continuous miles of Class V creeking!
The shuttle is super easy, and the run will definately get enough water in a decent year (probably 300 CFS or so at peak).
The rapids at the put-in and soon after look promising, but then the gradient peters out and there is lots of wood, much of it put there as bridges by fishermen. Soon after the trail leaves the creek the gradient will pick up to continuous Class IV with lots of wood for about a mile.
There will be a very short calm strech before the bottom drops out.
At this point, there is a super intense bedrock gorge that drops at a rate of 400 to 500 fpm for about 1/4 mile. Then the gradient will remain fairly steep for the remainder of the run, 300+, but it won't be gorged up.
Lots of wood!
Should someone scout this out or do some wood cleaning, the best way to get in there is to mountain bike from the trail head, the trail follows right next to the creek through the easy stuff, and then climbs out into the hills on river left right before the gradient. Once on the jeep trails that climb away from the river keep taking the trail to the right to parrallel the river up on the edge of the canyon and you will definately be able to tell where it gorges up!
This is a great bike ride!
Extensive pics of the crux section...
To Get There: The takeout is the put-in for the normal ssv run, at the confluence of the south and middle forks of the creek on Hwy 7 west of Lyons. To get to the put in continue driving upstream until you get to the intersection with Hwy 72, take a left (south) and continue driving south past Peaceful Valley adn take a left on Overland Road(there should be a sign for Jamestown). Continue down this Class II dirt road until you cross over the creek, then turn left at the sign for the Ceran St. Vrain Trailhead.
See Colorado Rivers and Creeks II, by Banks and Eckardt (The Bible), for info on this and most of the other kewl runs of Colorado.
Lat/longitude coords are approximate, from TopoZone.
The various reaches of of Saint Vrain Creek,Upper NSV (Class V+/VI-),Middle NSV (Class IV/V),Lower NSV (Class II/III),Upper SSV (Class V+/VI-),SSV (Class V/V+), andLeft Hand Creek (Class IV).
Phateye has the gauge listed in the South Platte section.
The Upper SSV is about 1/3 of the flow shown in the SSV reading.
A minimum is probably 300 cfs in the lower run, optimal is probably 400 cfs or higher in the lower run.
Permits are not required for this reach.
We have no additional detail on this route.
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On Sunday, nearly 50 people gathered on the banks of the St. Vrain River to pick up trash from the water and the shoreline. We started the day off with Hotbox Roasters coffee and donuts, and a few words about River Stewardship – the common cause that brought us all together. We found bedframes, rusty nails, lawn chairs, car doors, plastic water bottles, candy wrappers, fast food containers, and it doesn’t stop there. Our findings are likely a combination of leftover debris from the floods, illegal waste dumping along the river, and built up trash from years of careless passers-by. Thank you to all those that came out for the river cleanup! American Whitewater depends on our affiliate clubs, members, and dedicated volunteers in order to tackle our many River Stewardship projects.
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