New Hope Creek - Turkey Farm Rd. to Erwin Rd.


New Hope Creek, North Carolina, US

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Turkey Farm Rd. to Erwin Rd.

Usual Difficulty II-III (for normal flows)
Length 5 Miles
Avg. Gradient 20 fpm
Max Gradient 40 fpm

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
CANE CREEK NEAR ORANGE GROVE, NC
usgs-02096846 100 - 1000 cfs II-III 00h36m 117 cfs (running)



StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2007-01-08 22:58:55

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February 19 2018 (267 days ago)
adventure_coach (159039)
---update--- I've run New Hope a few times at the "I'm desperate" level. With about 1.25" - 2" of
rain in 24 hrs you can catch a bubble if you time it right. Doing the whole thing from Turkey Hill
Farm is pretty scrapy and loses the fun factor by the time you get to the big stuff. I've also
walked in from the Concrete Bridge Rd. off of Whitfield. It's about a 1/2 mile hike in but at least
it's downhill...you get the big stuff and beautiful scenery of Duke Forest. Parking there also
makes shuttle walkable. I've decided that if there water covering the trail underneath the Erwin
Rd. bridge then it's runnable. A few inches below the trail = barely runnable. Another visual are
the sketchy metal fence posts, if they're covered then water's good. If 10-12" are exposed = lower
runnable / desperate. Would hate to swim and get impaled by one of these. -------------- It rained
just over 6" in the last 2 days. I'd say the creek came up at least 4-6 feet if not more. As a WNC
boater, I was dubious about said Class III, but it was definitely there (reminds me of last part of
the Narrows on Big Laurel). Fun scenic run. There's a little play along the way and the "rapids"
get bigger throughout the run until they are actual rapids. Reminiscent of the Nanny in some points
but more creeky, continuous and full of trees. Some wood to portage but easily scout-able and most
of it you can go underneath/ over. Cane Creek gauge flashed to about 6 feet today and it dropped
while I was on it but New Hope is still gushing even after the official gauge was at 71 cfs.
March 30 2009 (3515 days ago)
Mike McDermottDetails
Kayaked New Hope for the first time yesterday, rained close to 2 inches the previous couple of
days, guage at Cane Creek was approx 65 CFS at the time. Creek was very runable at this level.
Portaged 4 times from fallen logs, streamers. Excellent run, excellent rapids.
June 14 2006 (4534 days ago)
Jim WeiDetails
Ran it today, 6/14/2006. It was maybe medium level, hard to tell. There was about 2 inches of water
going over the low water bridge. No decent play spots found. Nice rapids and good scenery. Lots
downed trees but we were able to either get over them or go under them, no portage necessary. It
took about an hour to run.

We put in at end of Mimosa Dr., had to hike down the hill bush wacking to get to the creek. It was
fun.
January 14 2005 (5050 days ago)
Mark ThompsonDetails
Just got off the NHC. It was a high flow run. What a GREAT little run. It's about 4 Miles or so and
took @2.5 hours at this flow without straggling. You do need to pay attention to the strainers,
there is a certain amount of wood, but not so much that it caused problems. There are 2 unavoidable
portages where trees cross the river, but they are easily seen with easy eddies and accessible
banks. They only caused a 5 min delay each. This is a creek with a lot of blind bends and turns.
Each turn seemed to be accompanied by the next small rapid most all of them class 2. This provides
for some fairly continuous paddling and limited flat water. There is one honest to goodness class
three. About half to two thirds of the way down you first come to a hard left turn followed hard
right turn. The second rapid (the hard right) should be scouted. There are strainers and you can
December 16 2004 (5079 days ago)
Ryan EmanuelDetails
This may be a little outdated, but I ran this section of New Hope Creek after Hurricane Fran in
1996. The entire section was choked by strainers and windblown trees. The run took about 5 hours
and ended in a muddy slog through the dark. It looked to have been such a beautiful run through a
small and intimate gorge, but the hurricane ended that.

Despite the countless portages, there was one nice playspot (small hole) in the very heart of the
section near the point where a trail forded the stream. I think Nealy even noted it on his map of
New Hope Creek.

Does anyone know if the run has been cleared since 1996? I heard tale of plans to have a volunteer
unclogging before I moved away in 1999, though I can't imaging Duke allowing such alteration to the
Korstian Division of its forest.


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