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Difficulty III-IV
Length Miles
Gauge Muddy Creek near Portersville, PA
Flow Range 250 - 1000 CFS
Flow Rate as of: 28 minutes ago 24.6 [CFS] ℹ️
Reach Info Last Updated 06/20/2018 2:32 pm

River Description


Possibly the coolest creek I have seen for scenery. Obstacles include rollercoaster tracks and bridges.
For Slip locals, this creek is within close proximity, and the legality, while not certain, has not been a problem like it has on Muddy Creek. Plus, as one of the pictures shows, some of the drops are right at bridges, making multiple runs possible.


Dave Woten wrote:

We parked in the park and quickly ran to scout. Boats were unloaded, camera set, and we began to huck. We were a little nervous because it was posted "no trespassing." We were not sure if they were covering liability or seriously enforcing this post. We slid down a little cascade then off the big drop just above the roller coaster pilings. Craig Wood ran it, I ran it, then Craig went back for more. We loaded and drove down the street to change (deciding to leave the scene of the crime quickly). This was on 4/4/2000. Slippery Rock was above 5'. I believe this drop would be runnable anytime the Slip shoots up several (3 or more) feet or surpasses 5'. I opted to land just to the left of the mushroom because I didn't ever see it dry to know what caused it. A week or 2 before we ran it, it was measured with a throw rope at 22'-23'.


As for the creek running, my guess is that it runs maybe 4-5 times a year--either with an epic fall/summer rain, like Hurricane Ivan, or during spring snowmelt following a rainstorm with a few inches of rain. Based on my assumptions of gauge correlations with Muddy Creek and Slippery Rock, the Muddy gauge needs to be at 250 and rising. It has done this maybe 5-10 times within the last two years, you can check that out at the USGS site.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/dv?format=gif&period=730&site_no=03106300

Good luck, and if you get any more beta let me know, I'll add it to the site.

 

Lat/longitude coords of the putin are a very rough guess. Anyone who has better beta on this run (such as, the name of the road that the putin is on): please add a comment to help us out!

 

For info on the park that this crick runs through, click here.

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BradR
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12 years ago

From Rich Yester: By the way, Big Run near New Castle is finally listed. I think that I was the second or third to run the big falls. That's the one on Thunderballs that we call Big Beaver Falls. First decent was made by Craig Wood. He's the one who told me about it, but since has hurt his back and I don't believe that he boats any longer.

Gage Descriptions

Gauge is on a steam of similiar size and drainage about 15 miles away. Muddy should be be rising when read.

Another gauge is the slip gauge at wurtemburg, which should be rising and near 5' according to Dave Woten.

Check out that gauge here: http://wmw.lrp.usace.army.mil/current/bo.html

Also, another source can be the AFWS, use Butler and Venango County to see how heavy the rain is hitting.

http://www.afws.net/states/pa/pa.htm

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Pennsylvania Dam Removal Conference to be Held January 31st.

1/9/2004
Kevin Colburn

There will be a one day conference on January 31st in eastern Pennsylvania that will address dam removal and rehabilitation in the state and region. It is likely that this very affordable conference would be helpful to paddlers interested in working on dam removal projects in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. Registration for the conference is due by January 23rd.
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Revision #Revision DateAuthorComment
1194188 10/27/04 Chris Preperato n/a
1195444 06/11/09 Matt Muir Added VERY rough lat/longitude coordinates.
1195446 06/11/09 Matt Muir Added another link.
1209894 06/20/18 Alex Barham Location