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Difficulty I-III+(IV)
Length 4.9 Miles
Gauge N/A
Flow Range
Reach Info Last Updated 09/12/2018 11:03 am

River Description

This remote backcountry float begins below the dam of Talbott Reservoir and flows approximately 4.9 miles to the mouth entering Townes Reservoir.  Typical of eastern mountains, it has periodic drops interspersed with pocket drops and short rapids.  More of a large creek during average flows.

This stretch is complicated as the access to the put-in and take-out are fairly decent, but there is a significant 1.3 mile flatwater paddle across Townes Reservoir to exit.  You must acquire a permit either in-person or via email (see below). There is also no reliable flow estimation, both from a rainfall runoff or release point.  Since Talbott catches most of the upstream influx, a significant rain would be required to influence this run outside of a generation release. 

In addition, this section of river is confined by steep canyon walls in numerous places, making deadfalls, logjams, and strainers very common since flushing flows happen sporadically.  If this was a roadside stretch, it probably wouldn't warrant anything above class 3.  However, since you will be very far from help, it pays to scout and always paddle with a group.

Permit Required:

Release Info: (276) 251-5141

More to come......BLP (May 2015)

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Kenneth Swarey
7 years ago

Please correct the description of this section. The specs. are incorrect. This section is 6 miles in length with gradient in the 40-50 fpm range. Please note the contour intervals on USGS topo maps are 20 ft. and not 40. A local trout guide who has waded this entire stretch stated there is no real whitewater here. I have waded one mile of this stretch and observed nothing more than class I water. It can be floated but even at 60 %, it will be a scratch and rub ride. The drainage size is only about 30 square miles which is smaller than the Tye.

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7 years ago

if are kind enough to release flow for the kibler valley run... why not release straight from the dam too??

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Chris Gorman
10 years ago

The New Green River Narrows? It has the Gradient, it has the dam...All we are missing is the access

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Directions Description

The put-in is accessed from VA 601, Ramp Hollow Rd.  Head north on Bent Rd, turn left on Squirrel Spur Rd (VA 614).  Turn left on Lower Dam Rd (VA 602) to reach the takeout.

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Attention Virginia Boaters!

Jason Robertson

During the high waters of Spring 2003, there has been a noticeable increase in reported confrontations between boaters and property owners in Virginia. Please remember to be respectful and courteous to property owners; do not trespass; and avoid confrontation in order to preserve access in the future.

Matt Muir


Tony Allred Jr


Brandon L Price


Revision #Revision DateAuthorComment
1194450 03/31/06 n/a n/a
1210328 09/12/18 Tony Allred Jr 9-10-2018 - adjusted order number
1210330 09/12/18 Tony Allred Jr 9-10-2018 - adjusted order number
1204643 05/18/15 Brandon L Price Initial Write-up