DogRiver - Please email me with your contact information @ email@example.com as I would like to calmly discuss as I am afraid that you may be mistaking what some other groups are doing on your property as no one that I am paddling with is doing that. I would like to get to the bottom of this and like you... discover who is doing that as I have never been on the river with anyone that would do such things. I don't even know of anyone that paddles with a gun or why they would so I am leaning toward this not being paddlers that you are addressing in this forum. I don't even know of anyone on this forum that would try to camp out on the Dog River as it's such a short run. I to am a property owner on a river in the state of Georgia and fully understand. Thanks and I will get the word out about the issue - and if it is someone in our paddling circles we will address this with them. Looking forward to help address this situation with you. Chuck Kirk
The posted signs start at the Big Island Rapid and continue into the flat water a bit and up onto the large hill on river left. The first one is located on river left in the middle of the rapid where it is too late for a kayaker to read and portage. None of the signs I saw had any information on them. The signs were plastered all over the once-beautiful hill above the river.
If DogRiver guy would list his phone number or address, we could all ask him for permission to float above his property, but until then, we can all just stay in our boats until we pass DogRiver's lair.
I own river property in the state of Georgia on a navigable river and you cannot stop people from floating by. Even if you own both sides of the river, so I am not sure what DogRiver guy here is talking about. Just because the owners don't like it they can only own the land under the water not the water itself and Dog river is considered navigable. State law trumped Douglas County in the 1990's. I have "heard" reports of people still having issues - none confirmed... I have not personally had any issues with Douglas County since then other than trying to charge for parking at the reservoir nor have I had any issues with any of the land owners there. I'd be really interested in any current lawsuits if anyone can provide information not from the case in the 90's.
There's basically no information/photos on this run, so, here's a little more: We ran this today around 300 cfs on the correct gauge that you can find at http://waterwatch.usgs.gov/?m=real&r=ga&w=map. The correct guage is titled Dog River near Fairplay, Georgia. The river includes lots of class II stuff and a couple of class III's at this level.
This was my first time down, and I was really impressed by the river. The rapids are fairly technical. There are a few longer set of rapids with lots of eddies, ledges, and some waves trains. It's not all drop and pool like many of the II-III rivers in GA.
The river's a good time, when it's running. There is also about a mile of lake paddling at the end. Check out the video I posted on youtube (that wouldn't fit on this site) titled "Bradley on the Dog River near Fairplay, Georgia" and a newer video from a fella I know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqzbfHNQ0WE. His video was shot at 265cfs on the waterwatch gauge.
Update: There are now many videos of the Dog at low water (200-400 cfs) thanks to Josh Ames aka riversasquatch. The highest I've had the pleasure to run at has been a little over 500 cfs. The river is more pushy with bigger holes and waves, but nothing drastically different. Others I know have ran it up to 800 cfs (and once at 3600 cfs, which won't happend again). They reported much larger waves, holes, and push than at lower levels. The III+ rating is probably justified at these levels.
I'm a native that grew up swimming and floating on Dog river, annewakee creek, sweetwater creek. I'm from Winston near the powerlines that cross I-20 west of post road exit. There's a tunnel under I-20 and the powerlines to allow a small but crystal clean creek to cross. A smaller creek that started from a spring behind the house I grew up in joined the tunnel creek. Together they go south east toward the backside of the Clinton estate where they turn into a large, natural, shallow swamp like wetland. Then the waters drain from the wetland and soon drain into dog river.
Before there was a Douglas county Water AUTHORITY....every creek in the county was accessible. The large, older, reservoir called Bear creek was open to the public to fish. Hard to get to, but held the biggest bluegill and shellcracker I've caught. It was loaded in big bass too, but it was big enough to require a boat to reach them. The concrete spillway on the dam end was loaded in big bluegill. There was a 2 story pump house on the dam that some would jump off of. Nobody ever died.
That spillway flows into Annewakee creek which crosses 166 then drains into the hooch. You could hike from the 166 bridge in or drive in the headwater end if you had 4 wheel drive and some clearance.Just west of this spot off a dirt road was the trail down to the old "beach" part of dog river. Some rapids...sand beach...and a deep fishing hole. The reservoir(Built by taxpayer funds), Annewakee creek, dog river, and the tract of woods around it make up some of the most beautiful landscape in the county.
Thing is....the landowners surrounding that whole area were composed of Old money Douglas county power brokers....Judges, DA, Dr's, etc and they were all from the original group of families that settled the county. This same group also owned the Douglas county hunt club property a few miles west on 166, the same group that permitted a wealthy, female, property owner to get the permits so she could rescue unwanted big cats from zoos. Lions, Tigers, pumas, panthers numbering in the hundreds. I saw them with my own eyes. She spent millions for the fencing and the insurance etc...did everything the county asked. Then, after the downturn in the deer population started in the late 90's, and the prestigious DC hunt club had several slack harvests in a row, they decided the woman and her cats were to blame. She was forced to shutdown for some BS violation, but to the chagrin of hunt club, she had the money to stall in court by appeal long enough to turn loose a few here and there, about 15-20 yearlings that had been born in her care that she raised to like squirrel, two breeder adult females, and one adult male...all American cougars...a species that use to roam Douglas county woods before the white man came.
Anyway, when the idea of building dog river reservoir first came up, and citizens heard the initial proposal of fee structure...folks went off. They were higher than they are now to begin with. Folks went off because like me, they had been around long enough to know who benefited from owning the land around the area, they knew their water bills and tax bills financed the reservoir, they knew that several old money landowners made a killing selling property that was worth little(!,000 acre) but was bought for much more (10,000 acre) because they acted like they didn't want to sell. The flooded reservoir made the land they didn't sell but bordered the reservoir worth much more. And the county would save millions from the water the reservoir provided.
All this funded by tax payer money. If they hadn't gotten so greedy from the get go with the proposed fees, which they lowered but are still high, nobody would've cared. When angry residents let the county know they wouldn;t spend one dime at the new reservoir, they quietly shut off access to the older reservoir at bear creek. For years I fished there getting checked once or twice a year by DNR, It was a real muddy drive down there....Then one year, down on the spillway end, I saw what looked like a DNR truck but as it drew closer I realized it said "Water Authority Law Enforcement". Had ANY part of my mind knew I was no longer legal there when I first saw the truck on the headwater end, I had a thirty minute head start to make the 10 minute run into the woods following Annewakee creek out to 166. They never would've stood a chance of catching me, even if they started out right behind me. Nope...I stood right there and two armed "WATER POLICE" came out of their truck and informed me I was tresspassing, that I was going to jail, and my fishing gear would be confiscated. They thought they had me when he called DCSD over the radio asking for a deputy to meet them at the road because their authority ends there. The dispatcher said gimme a min to find a deputy. In that wait I told them that they had no power to arrest me physically untill the deputy got there. I told them that If I so choose, I could break for the woods and would be on 166 before they even got to kings hwy on the other end. And I also told them that I wanted to talk to the sheriff himself over the radio or I would not go along peacefully to meet the deputy at the road and any physical contact on their part would expose the county to a nice lawsuit and prolly cost them their jobs. I also expressed my disdain for the sneaky way the county suddenly changed the rules without saying anything all so the big wigs in the county could have a taxpayer funded private hunting and fishing preserve. I was let go with a summons to appear in court.
I went before Judge James(Who owned property bordering bear creek) and David Mcdade. I got a lecture about trespassing laws and was fined $50.
That's why things are like they are now. It's a crime that the citizens of this county are held back from enjoying the beautiful, wild, creeks and rivers that we grew up enjoying and were stopped from using because of dog river reservoir. Actually, had someone dropped a dime to Dale Russel..this would blowed slap up.Since the days of Earl Lee and his magical escape from some sure fire ugly charges the atlanta media has been itching to get dirt on old Douglas county power broker families.
I took a trip down it yesterday. It was at a 1000cfs which made it much more interesting then the lower levels I've done it at. I would go as far to say that some of it had me thinking class 4 and one hole that was worse than the hole on Woodall Shoals on the Chattooga. The hole is the next rapid past the little S turn(which at this level it wasn't an S turn anymore.) by the beach/campfire area. A couple feet down stream right in line with the hole is a big undercut rock. You can portage the hole on the left or right or run down river right side of it and take your chances with a couple sharp rocks. At 400cfs and lower you don't need to scout anything, unless you are newer to kayaking or just not that good. This is a great place to kayak if you want to see the damage done by the Nov. 09 floods.
There is a put in at the hwy 5 bridge its next to the bridge off the side of the road. If you don't want to pay at the take out, look at a road map, you'll figure something out. If your planning on making a trip down it and want someone else to go with you my email is david.e.collins81@ gmail.com, I'm local.
Alright... so I took my buddy who had never paddled a kayak before to the Dog River Reservoir today. Because there is hardly any information on this site or the internet (especially since the flood in '09), I will write as much as possible.
First, we pulled into the reservoir parking lot. We had no plans of going down the actual river due to a lack of information on the rapids or dangers, so we paid $1 admission/person + $5 for each boat for access to the reservoir. I am not sure how the payments would work if you were merely pulling out at the reservoir. The park ranger was talking to us about the Dog River and how it is bullcrap that it is good for kayaking. I think part of his rant on the inadequacies of the actual river was to keep kayakers away.
We put the kayaks in at the boat launch at the bottom of the hill and headed north toward the mouth of the river which was about a .5 miles up-current so it was a little tough.
We made it up to the mouth and got out of our boats because there just wasn't enough water. The water level according to the gauge on this website read 7.3 cfs. However, there did seem to be some definite potential in the flow of the water around the rocks that this could be a pretty fun river at about 200- 500 cfs... I am not sure of the conversion into feet, but if there was about a foot of extra water, this would have been impossible to pass up dragging our boats on the rocks to get to a few of the chutes and drops that we walked to today. This last section of rapids is named Zippy's Bender and with a 500 cfs I would have to say it would probably be class II+.
However, with a lot more water, it would have been impossible to see the amount of trees and roots that had been deposited during the flood of '09, so it would be best to stay in your boat. Almost every rock looked to be undercut or atleast pointing upstream... I am no expert, but I definitely would be a little insecure while running this with a lot of water.
We walked about a quarter-mile upstream and found a few more drops of 1-3 feet that had a surprising amount of water flowing through for such low reading in cfs. In this section of the river there is a large house up on the hill overlooking the river on the right. Seeing this house will represent the last section of rapids before the river empties into the reservoir. There will then be another smaller house closer to the river on the right and during this section, you will want to stay left due to the undercut rocks that line the right hand side of the rapid. I am posting a couple pictures, so please take a look and if anyone is able to read rock structures, please let us know if there truly is potential to this section.
I look forward to the next rainfall because I will definitely be trying it out. The ranger told me that anybody that plans on parking at the reservoir has to be there by 12:00 or you will never make it back prior to them locking the gates at 6:00 or 7:00. He also said that the last day that the reservoir will be closed on November 20th and open back up in March.
We drove past the HWY 5 putin and there looked to be a lot of water in that section but nowhere to park.
In 1997 in Atlanta School of Kayaking v. Douglasville County Water,(3) a county government agency sought to prevent the public from canoeing and kayaking the Dog River through private land, then taking out at a reservoir. The government agency claimed that there is not a public right to boat on such small, shallow rivers, noting that canoeists and kayakers describe the Dog River as a whitewater river that is enjoyable "only after rainfall, and then only for a brief period of time," and that even American Whitewater magazine said that the river "is generally considered a high water run that is runnable on an infrequent basis at best." But the court held that "the answers to these questions are determined by federal law," and held that the public does indeed have the right to canoe and kayak on such rivers under federal law.
Dog River Reservoir
Representatives of the Georgia Canoeing Association and the Friends of the Dog River Reservoir ("FDRR") met with the Douglasville-Douglas County Water and Sewer Authority ("WSA") regarding various issues of public access relating to the Dog River Reservoir. This meeting occurred in the face of increasing tensions between the WSA and the GCA and FDRR arising due to a month-long campaign by the GCA and the FDRR to muster support in Douglas County and Greater Metro Atlanta Area supporting a change of the WSA's policies prohibiting paddlers from traversing the Dog River Reservoir to take out after paddling the Dog River.
The GCA and FDRR have learned that a local fisherman led a successful campaign in 1993 to prevent the Reservoir from becoming a State Park. This gentleman and his constituency are apparently the driving force behind WSA's strict policies prohibiting out-of-county residents from any access to the Reservoir unless accompanied by a Douglas County resident.
Representatives of the WSA, the GCA and the FDRR met with this local fisherman for two hours on Thursday, March 9, 1995. After the meeting, approximately 25 people attended a WSA Board meeting to voice concerns about the WSA's exclusionary policies. The board graciously allowed each representative group to make a short statement. At the conclusion of the board meeting, GCA and FDRR representative believed that the WSA would approve a plan to provide permits to boaters. A week later the Board summarily rejected the idea.
During the week following the board meeting, local newspapers in Douglas County became interested in these events and wrote stories, one of which supported the WSA and a second of which supported FDRR. Since that time, there has been a fire storm of angry letters to the papers, most of which have been highly critical of the policies of the WSA.
Despite early signs of cooperation, the WSA appears to be deeply entrenched in its position. Both sides seem to be preparing for litigation. No negotiations are in progress at this time. The GCA is requesting information from the WSA and is contemplating filing a lawsuit.
Text adapted from article in May/June 1995 issue of the AWA Journal.
According to the new georgia guidebook, as of 2005 its legal for non douglas county folks to boat the reservior. We paddled the dog on Feb 7, 2005 when sweetwater was rising and close to 8 feet. The dog was at a nice medium level. I would have liked a little more water to pad things out some. The one rapid toward then end was getting into class 4 territory.
The boat ramp is presently closed from nov1 to mar 1. We paddled down to where they are doing bridge construction on hwy 166 and took out there with no problems.
Dog is a good run when sweetwater is starting to get up into the scary range.
The online gauge is for Noses Creek. This is experimental for the moment. This creek is as close by as Sweetwater and it's drainage area matches better also.
Its best to catch the dog while the gauge is still rising. The Dog will only hold water for a day after a rain at the most.
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Dog River Rapids
The Mouth - facing the reservoir @ 7.3 cfs
Facing Upstream at the Mouth - 7.3 cfs
Close to the end of the run
Dale Plays on the Dog
Dale playing on the Dog River
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