Rottenwood Creek - Windy Hill Rd to Chattahoochee River


Rottenwood Creek, Georgia, US

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Windy Hill Rd to Chattahoochee River

Usual Difficulty III-IV (for normal flows)
Length 2.25 Miles
Avg. Gradient 50 fpm
Max Gradient 100 fpm

Confederate Life - 2


Confederate Life - 2
Photo of Bradley by Brad Roberts taken 03/26/02 @ low

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
ROTTENWOOD CR AT INTERSTATE N PKWY, NR SMYRNA, GA
usgs-02335910 250 - 1000 cfs III-IV 00h35m 20.5 cfs (too low)


River Description

Gauge Description:
Visual from one of many bridge overpasses. (Delk, Terrill Mill, Windy Hill, Windy Ridge, Interstate North, I-285, and Akers Mill)


Rottenwood only runs after heavy rains, and runs off quickly.  It can spike up and down over 1000 cfs in less than an hour.

 

November 2007: USGS now has an online gauge. It does not corelate with the Maxwell gauge. REPORT YOUR RUNS.


Update 9-01-2003 - New Gauge:The gauge is on the Interstate North Parkway SE bridge. It is a painted gauge on the downstream side of the center set of pylons. It is best viewed from river right next to the large "Interstate North Parkway 180" sign. 


0 inchs - passable.  This is around 200 cfs on the USGS gauge.
2 feet - padded.
3 feet - beefy

River Description:
Welcome to some of the most polluted water in Georgia.

Rottenwood has some good whitewater; problem is that when the river is running the water is brown. Almost the color and consistency of a chocolate milk shake. In that water will be the run-off from a very large office park. After running Rottenwood expect your gear to smell like gasoline. Burning eyes and and skin irritation from the polluted water should be expected. Aside from that the river has some good rapids. 

In the old days (pre 1997) the best way to see how the river was running was to take a look from the bridge over the creek at Akers Mill road. Akers Mill Rapid was directly downstream of the Bridge. Unfortunately with the road project we got a new bridge that covers the entire rapid. The construction changed the rapid somewhat, widening the channel and making the drop a little bit easier. The quick road side scout takes a little more work. The best place to look at the creek for a level check is now either the put-in or where Interstate North Parkway crosses the river.  As of 2007 the Park Service added a jogging trail that runs alongside the creek from above Akers Mill Road down to the takeout.  The upstream end of the trail is where the USGS gauge is located. 

Akers Mill rapid can get into the class 4 range with higher flows.

Above Akers Mill is a nice ledge drop that resembles a low head dam at higher flows. Beware of the undercut left bank. This drop used to be called Confederate Life, named after the multi-story office building beside it. The building has since changed ownership, currently Ascent Insurance.  See the Rapids tab for more detailed info.

A word of caution would be to watch out for the large (3 to 4 foot diameter) pipe toward the end of the run. At low flows water runs under the pipe, at flood water runs over the pipe. Last checked there was a lot of wood jammed on the upstream side of the pipe, and not much of an eddy above it. Most people carry around the pipe on river left.

Rottenwood has been run at some rediculously high levels. Use your best judgement before putting on. If Rottenwood is rising you might find yourself running the rapids dodging mobile strainers, and other assorted trash.

Rottenwood and Sope can usually be run back to back with some creative shuttle work.

Bradley. Posted April 2001, Updated March 2002, revised August 2008.


Logistics: The Put-in is just below the Health Club off Windy Hill Rd, on 1 North Parkway. There is a creekside parking area where Poplar Creek drops into Rottenwood Creek.

Use the park on the Hooch at Hwy 41 for a take out. Be current on your Hepatitis shots.

If your gear is REALLY smelling like an oil spill, there is a car wash about a mile away on Spring Road in Smyrna.


National Park Service map of the takeout: West Palisades.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2008-08-03 16:29:21

Editors


Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.0Put-InPutin
0.2Confederate LifeIII+Hazard Photo
0.6Windy Ridge Parkway Bridge RapidIIIPlayspot Photo
0.9First PipeHazard
1.0Akers Mill RapidIII+Playspot Photo
1.8Sewage PipePortage Hazard Photo
2.3Metro Hooch TakeoutITakeout

Rapid Descriptions

Put-In
Put-In on 1 North Parkway.

Confederate Life (Class III+, Mile 0.2)

Confederate Life

Confederate Life
Photo of Jim Strickland by Brad Roberts taken 03/06/02 @ Low

A double ledge drop. The left bank is undercut. At high flows this rapid creats a nasty riverwide hole, backed up by a second large hole.  At higher flows it can be snuck down the right.   At low flows you run down the meat on the left.



Windy Ridge Parkway Bridge Rapid (Class III, Mile 0.6)

Rottenwood Creek

Rottenwood Creek
Photo of Jim Strickland by Brad Roberts taken 03/06/02 @ Low

Nice little double ledge with a shallow playhole.

First Pipe

Just above the Akers Mill parking area is a riverwide pipe.  At low flows it can be ducked under, at higher flows its a hazard with not much of an eddy above it.



Akers Mill Rapid (Class III+, Mile 1.0)

Top of Akers Mill Rapid

Top of Akers Mill Rapid
Photo of Jim Strickland by Brad Roberts taken 03/26/02 @ low

After crossing under the I-285 interstate bridges the river turns to the right the back to the left. Scout Akers Mill Rapid on the left. The current is split by a large boulder. Beware or rebar in the approach to the rapid. The standard line is down the right. Continuous Class 3 water follow for the next quarter mile. There are two good play waves in this stretch.

Sewage Pipe

(RM) Portaging the Pipe

(RM) Portaging the Pipe
Photo of Jim Kelly by Rob Maxwell @ 2'2"

Big riverwide sewer pipe. Lots of wood on the upstream side. Carry on the left.

Metro Hooch Takeout (Class I, Mile 2.3)
The take-out is on river right at Palisades Park off of Highway 41.


User Comments

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January 3 2008 (3971 days ago)
Tommy ModeDetails
A friend and I ran Rottenwood creek 12-23-07 the level on the guage at the time was 3.5' and was a
nice moderate level for our first run on this creek. Before we went to the put-in I thought it
might be a good idea to scout Confederate Life rapid to get an idea of the flow and pick our route.
After scouting the rapid my friend decides he would help me with the shuttle but didn't feel
comfortable about making the run since his experience was limited. With that said it turned into a
solo run,which for me always makes things a little more interesting .As previously mentioned this
was my first time running Rottenwood, although I had scouted the entire run from the bank with help
from the Bob Callan trail which goes right past Aikers Mill rapid , scouting Confederate Life and
Windy Ridge rapids are not as easy but can be done by parking on private property. Ok now for the
solo run details ;on my approach to Confederate Life in the back of my mind I knew river-right was
my best option but from our earlier scout I knew river-left had a nice slide that ran towards an
undercut rock with a decent hole at the bottom but it seemed like a runnable line at this level so
off I went .On the way down the slide I found myself headed towards the undercut rock ledge so I
thought I would use my paddle to brace the impact which resulted in me getting my paddle knocked
from my hands which left me circling around the hole until I recovered my paddle then I continued
on my way downstream to Windy Ridge rapid where things went a little smoother but not much. There
was no swim but it was touch and go there for a second. I was held in the middle of the rapid for a
minute, it seemed like forever. Aikers Mill rapid is probably the most technical rapid but for me
on this partcular day it seemed to go easier than the other two. After Aikers Mill rapid the creek
runs through a small gorge which is mostly boogie water with exception of what I refer to as Bunker
rapid (view photos) for a picture of this rapid. There are also several sewer pipe crossings on
this run, some actually cross at creek-bed level. They built concrete structures on top of the
pipes which resemble small low-head dams the other pipes are aerial crossings which must be
portaged . I am aware that solo runs are not recommended, cold weather and nasty water only
complicated things but I was desperate for a run and this was my fix . ..Special thanks to Bobby
Kelly for the shuttle help.
November 1 2006 (4399 days ago)
Chuck WilliamsDetails
Friday, Oct 27, three of us newbies gave Rottenwood a go. We believe the level was around 4 feet.
We didn't make it as far as the gage. Confederate Life was a good Class II run on the river right
line but a scary as hell looking line on river left that we figured might be a Class IV.
<p>
Due to some short sightedness on equipment we did not finish the run. One of our friends was in a
recreational kayak and it soon became obvious it wasn't going to work in the fast current and
constant action of a creek. I am also to blame as I did not have contacts in that evening and was
wearing glasses that had quickly fogged up, so seeing what was coming next was proving difficult.
We hiked out and decided to come back better prepared next time.
</p>
<p>
Also of <b>important note</b>, there is a tree across the river along with a good size pipe just
40 yards upstream of Insterstate North Parkway & 285. You can see both from the bridge where
there is currently construction going on and the road formerly crossed the creek on this bridge.
Friday night they were right at the level of the water and by Saturday morning the water level
had dropped and they were 3-4 feet above the creek. I saw some eddies with fast upstream flows
and creating whirlpools along the eddy lines.
</p>
<p>
We're regulars on Nantahala, love Cartekay, and have hit a few others like Chattooga 3.5 at lower
levels but all of these are pool drop style rivers. <i>I wanted to share this little story for
others in our skill range thinking about stepping up a skill level the next time the water
rises.</i> Going there with inappropriate gear, without a guide and not bridge scouting first was
foolish.
</p>
<p>
The next morning I parked at the Hooch and walked upstream. I was privy to some of the things we
would have had to get through including this <a href=
"http://www.ccgallery.net/rottenwood/river_wide_strainer.jpg">river wide strainer</a>. The
<a href="http://www.ccgallery.net/rottenwood/probably_fun_at_4_feet.jpg">rocks and pour overs</a>
<i>(that's the normal low level of the stream)</i> and obstacles we missed down stream looked
like fun but I had no regrets about our decision to walk out and come back another day. UPDATE:
Nov 16. The level was a little higher, I took some pictures and built up a webpage. Here is the
<a href="http://www.ccgallery.net/rottenwood/">link</a> and I hope you'll learn from our lessons.
:)
</p>
January 3 2006 (4701 days ago)
Austin CraneDetails
Thought I'd share a hurricane Ivan story.
Meeting up with Jeff Larimer and Neil Quinn it starts at
the put-in where the creek is roaring underneath
Inerstate North. I'm not quite sure how
much rain we got that day, but it was enough to bring
the creek over 10' on the bridge gauge. Now, i have
10' left us speechless and shaking our heads . Neil
was the first to grab his paddle, and without anydone
some runs on this creek at pretty high flows but
words we got dressed.(For the first time we could not
paddle under the bridge, we had to put in below) I
knew from previous runs over 7' that we would have
to walk the first rapid, and that day it was espeacily
nasty. After the riverwide death hole all the water
smashes directly into the trees on river right. We
actually had to walk about 30 yards down stream
before it was safe to put in. Trust me, thoughts of
walking back to the car were sounding pretty good,
but we pressed on. For those who know the run the
following rapid that feeds under the next bridge can
get pretty hairy, and that day was no exception. To
our suprise the lines stay pretty much the same, and
the eddies are still there! GO LEFT, there is a HUGE
hole on the right in this rapid. Then for about 3/4's of
a mile till akers mill just hold on, we are talking big
waves and big fun and plenty of time to get out and
look at Akers Mill rapid. There's really not much to
worry about here, the holes all gone and everything
turns into a huge waves all the way to the river. Even
the rapid further down which normaly has two big
holes is now three incredible surf waves! Now the
only thing in the back of my mind was spotting the
pipes to carry around, but they never came. Somehow
we paddled right over them without knowing, and
when we reached the river, still speechless, we all
agreed that we have never been as happy to see the
Chattahoochee as then.
This has to be my favorite run in Atlanta. Unlike Sope,
which is solid class V+ in these types of rains
Rottenwood keeps its lines and eddies, just a lot
bigger! Not sure of the CFS that day but Sope was
running 7,500 CFS and you could hear boulders
tubbling underwater from about 300 yards away!

See you next time!
June 24 2004 (5259 days ago)
Geoff KohlDetails
Recently ran it at three different levels:

3 feet on gauge = big water, some pushy water in spots, definitely some holes to avoid. Call it
medium-high

6 inches = mellow, but not scraping plastic. all rapids are still fun

-2 inches = minimum level. nothing over class III. still fun for an afternoon fix, but it's not
going to get your adrenaline up unless you're a beginner kayaker.

You could still get down Rottenwood if it was even an inch or two lower, but consider -2" your
cut-off.
January 29 2004 (5406 days ago)
Robert MaxwellDetails
I ran Rottenwood at 2'2" on the paddler's gage. It was a meaty medium. Based on that single
run, I assume that minimum might be somewhere between 8"-12" and high would just over 3'.
Having said that, the routes through the rapids change with the water level. Some lines will get
easier and some harder, until it all washes out to wave trains and large holes. So, Low, Medium and
High is more or less relative. Again, please post your levels and impressions so we can get a
handle on the new paddler's gage.
August 30 2003 (5558 days ago)
Robert MaxwellDetails
This weekend I put a gage up on Rottenwood Creek. The gage is on the Interstate North Parkway SE
bridge. It is a painted gage on the downstream side of the center set of pylons. It is best viewed
from river right next to the large "Interstate North Parkway 180" sign. In the future
when you run Rottenwood, please report the levels and if it was low, medium or high, so we can get
a handle on what the gage means.
April 2 2002 (6073 days ago)
David GarrityDetails
Another way to gauge the level is to look at the type of debris floating by. If it's mostly twigs
and leaves it's low to medium, if it's 2x6s, it's really high. This run is a blast at really high
water. When the big rock at Akers Mill rapid is submerged, there are 6' + waves below the rapid.
But sure to get out to portage the pipe. There's a lowhead between Akers Mill and the pipe. At low
water, it's nothing. At medium-high levels, it's nasty. I spent a long time getting trashed in the
lower hole one night several years ago. I was in it until Commander Hooke washed out of the upper
hole and pushed me out. He stayed in it until a large tree limb pushed him out. It looks like there
isn't much above Windy Hill. I think I ran from Terrell Mill down many years ago, and there wasn't
much beside a lot of wood and a culvert that might become a death trap at high water. Confederate
Life and the rapid below it develop some big holes at high water (over the pipe). I used to get a
sinus infection every time I did this run.
March 27 2002 (6080 days ago)
BradRDetails
Conferderate life, double drop, run on the left busting left to right to stay out of the undercut
left bank. Good splashy 2/3 below that. Some wood to avoid. Lots of construction going on with new
road connecting interstate north to akers mill.

Might make us a new hole under the interstates.

Akers mill rapid is easier than it used to be pre-new bridge. Top of the rapid split by a large
boulder. we took the right hand route. Good class 2/3 splashy stuff below. Three good surf spots in
the class three range. Water quality still nasty as ever - eyes burning due to fuel in the water.
Fun run, shame that its so polluted. Sewage pipe over the river about a quarter mile before the
hooch confluence. Pipe is about 4 feet diameter, lots of wood on the upstream side. Pipe can be
carried on either side, most pick left.
May 9 2001 (6401 days ago)
BradRDetails
The Akers mill rapid is still there, but it has changed somewhat since the bridge/intersection has
been rebuilt. Anyone ever run the creek above Windy Hill Rd??
May 9 2001 (6401 days ago)
Mark NeislerDetails
Good to see you are a stream keeper. I used to run Rottenwood on a regular basis - before the
construction of the Kennedy Interchange. Isn't Akers Mill rapid gone? When was the last time you
ran Rottenwood? P.S. I always thought it smelled more like pesticide than gasoline. I also noticed
that I was immune to mosquitoes, fleas, and ticks for up to 3 months after running Rottenwood. ;-)


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