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Difficulty I-II
Length 2 Miles
Flow Range 400 - 1000 CFS
Flow Rate as of: 1 hour ago 22.3 [CFS] ℹ️
Reach Info Last Updated 04/26/2016 1:29 pm

River Description

 This Brook is quite small. Look for it to come up late fall when leaves are gone and the ground is cold, during the winter, and very early spring. The length is a little less than two miles (although it seemed longerwhen I paddled it) if you take out by the Deli on & Lakes Drive just upstream of the Ramapo. I guess you tack on another 0.20 miles if you paddle to the Dam on the Ramapo. Most of this run is fairly scenic, particuliarly after you pass under the secound bridge. At this point, you'll soon notice there's a hiking trail with red blazes on your left, the road is far enough distance to your right. If you hike the red trail from Reaves Meadow visitors center/ hikers parking lot, you'll be able to scout this section which is not visible from the road. It's not really important to do so since there's no ledge drops, nasty holes ect just always keep on guard for strainers. The section before this can be viewed when driving to the put-in by turning on to Johnston Town Rd. 



Downstate New York Area Reaches

Beer Kill                                          Beer Kill, W. Branch   

Callicoon Creek, E. Branch            Callicoon Creek, N. Branch 

Coxing Kill                                      Croton 

Delaware (1.)                                 Delaware (2. Mongaup Wave)

Delaware (3.)                                 Fishkill Creek 

Mombaccus Creek                         Mongaup 

Moodna Creek                               Neversink (1.) 

Neversink (2.)                                Neversink, E. Branch  

Peters Kill                                       Pocantico 

Popolopen Brook                           Ramapo 

Rochester Creek                            Rondout Creek (1.) 

Rondout Creek (2.)                        Rondout Creek (3.) 

Sandburg Creek                             Stony Brook (1.) 

Stony Brook (2.)                             Wallkill 

Wappinger Creek


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Rapid Descriptions


Gage Descriptions

 The day I ran this the Ramapo at Suffern was 2250 cfs. At this level it was basically CL2+. Although not CL3, however, at that level good eddie in skills are important since there's a few creek wide strainers. When I have ran the upper section, far more difficult even at lower levels, this section had a considerable amount of flat so I'm not sure what level you'll need for it to be fun. However, if the top section, listed above here is running, you'll definatly be able to paddle it. There's no guage for this Brook. To get an idea of difficulty, walk upstream from the put-in, see the rapid just after the last drop? That will be the most challanging of the day, unless you paddle down to the Ramapo and paddle down to the dam on the Ramapo. Both those rapids I call CL3, but ya don't have to paddle either. The dam is a few hundred yards down stream of the confluence of the Stony and Ramapo. Other than that at normal levels CL1-2.

Directions Description

 Shuttle depends on where you wanna take-out. If taking out at the dam, from rte 17 turn right on 7 Lakes Drive, drive over the Ramapo, (it will seem like two streams, since the Ramapo splits into two here) then make a right on a small road, just follow the River down stream until there's a sighn telling you to go no further. The riveris on you right, I-87 on your left. Listen for the water, and find and scout the dam. I guess you can park here, use your own judgement. Head back to 7 lakes Drive to the Hikers parking lot. On nice days this lot can fill up fast. Cold wet days brings the Stony up and hikers away. If it's gonna be nice and on a weekend, it may be a better idea to paddle elsewhere.  

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