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3. Bottom: Fowlersville to Lyons Falls

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Alex Barham

Jun 24, 2016


This spreadsheet was transcribed from the USGS survey in March of 1964. Actual measurements were only made for the ranges from 1.5-3.7. Above 3.7 values were calculated (estimated).

David Su
David Su

May 24, 2016


from FB 5.24.2016
Mike Webster Yes. Except for Moose Fest in October, releases increase the flow over Agers and down. Generally a Moose release can not effect the river above Agers. General?
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Eric Adsit
Eric Adsit Between 2.2 (ish) and 5.5 feet on the McKeever gauge, if the dam is online and no release is scheduled, there will be no water from the Portage dam down. Below 2.5 and above 5.5, some water is allowed to pass through into the Bottom Bottom, but if it's below 2.4 it's not really worth doing.The Top 4 run with natural flow all the time, but as Mike said, during October Moosefest they get a bump up from the draw down of the Fulton Chain of lakes.
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Jeremy Poulin
Jeremy Poulin That being said,there is a release this coming weekend
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Sam Bernstein
Sam Bernstein The dam occasionally goes offline as well in which case the section just becomes undamned essentially I believe. Happened last fall for several weeks.
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Chris Koll
Chris Koll A Bottom Moose release simply means that some or all of the water in the river is allowed to spill over the dam at Agers. During a typical release, they'll spill around 600 CFS (which is about 3'). Obviously, if the river is under 3'--the spill is less. When the river is higher--say around 4'--they'll continue to divert some water which keeps the Bottom four more manageable.
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Ted Engelhardt

Dec 11, 2013


Running the dam. Moose fest 2011 I think.

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Ed Williams

Oct 22, 2012


Moose River Fest

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Jack Carter

Sep 28, 2010


how would you rate the difficulty of the hike to put in and the hike out?

Donald Nelson
Donald Nelson

Sep 8, 2010


Me hucking agers first waterfall

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Wayne Gulmantovicz

Oct 19, 2009


High water on the bottom half of the bottom moose is fantastic and not all that bad. we ran the right line dropped into the pool and launched the race line for the last drop. 5-6 ft waves exiting crystal!

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Dooley Tombras

Nov 25, 2007


Open Canoe Boof

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Matthew Parmeter

Oct 15, 2007


While it was only my first one I have to say Moose Fest 2007 seemed to be a huge success. For anyone that was running Fowlersville Falls between 11am and Noon on Sunday or Magilla at around 1:30 I probably took photos of your run. I have over 600 high quality digital shots. Most of them from Fowlersville taken on the approach to the slide. I was just trying to get some good actions shots, but figure why let them go to waste. I am in the process of uploading them all to a Walmart photo group. The link is http://photos.walmart.com/groups/moosefest2007 so feel free to help yourself. You can also add your photos to the mix if I am not mistaken, so if you have some good ones of other people throw them up and share. I also have video from Fowlersville and Shureform so if you are in a Fowlersville picture or saw me standing at Shureform in the red fleece, shoot me an e-mail and I will see what I can do about getting the video to you. moosefest@howgreatami.com

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Untitled

Jul 31, 2007


The sneak(take left right before the rapid) to knifes edge is a good alternative at lower levels.
Just remember to stay right off the first drop unless you want to scrape up your elbow

Matt Muir
Matt Muir

Nov 11, 2006


Map created with GPSVisualizer.com.

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John Alden

Oct 15, 2006


I'd walked this rapid the previous two trips I'd made down the Moose. Overcoming the demons of the past is a liberating sensation.
Good friends, good water, and a lot of good times. Peace....

JA
John Alden

Oct 4, 2006


This is the final pitch of Shurform.

This was Nick's first run down the Moose.

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John Alden

Oct 1, 2006


Digging in.

RT

This is looking upstream at Knife's Edge. Kurt is in the foreground, Jim paddling, Knife's Edge in the background. The sneak comes in right behind Kurt's head. Although we could only run the first four drops a couple times that day (no release) ya just can't beat paddling the moose on an 80 degree day in short sleeve rash guards.

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Liane Underwood

Apr 26, 2006


Sean's the probe for our first run of Agers.
Liane's first run of Agers - a great way to spend a Wednesday!

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Patrick Rogers

Apr 27, 2003


More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
Lets follow ZoneDogg. Maybe I can repeat his good run, or maybe not. More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
Is my butt coming out of the bottom of the boat? Or is that a rock sticking thru the hull? More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
What have I done? I think that I am going to think twice about following ZoneDogg in the future. More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.

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Patrick Rogers

Apr 26, 2003


More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
This is the beginning of a bad line down Magilla. More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
This guy is luckey he can roll with VERY DIRTY underwear! This is the same guy as in the previous photo 'VERY BAD line'. More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.
This is the same guy as in the previous two photos. I think that he is going to feel this landing for several days. More of my photos can be found on my NEW kayakingphotos.com page and my American Whitewater page.

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Patrick Rogers

Oct 20, 2002


More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.

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Patrick Rogers

Oct 19, 2002


More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
Note - this is not the run that the guy ALMOST bought the farm on Sunday! (and had his boat stuck in the hole for several HOURS) More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.
More of my photos can be found on my American Whitewater page and my Geocities page.

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John Alden

Oct 15, 2001


There's nothing like redemption. This first time I ran Fowlersville I swam. There's nothing like waiting a year for a second chance.

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Ratt Boy

Oct 14, 2001


This is the middle-left line. The approach has a bunch of little ledges that'll try to mess wit yer line. The Ratt Boy doesn't know it at the time of this photo, but he's about two feet right of where he should be...and the rock shelf on the right is going to play its own personal game of pinball with him.

Thanks to Barry Grimes for capturing this moment offa Dave Duke's video.

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Ratt Boy

Oct 13, 2001


The North's answer to Gorilla.

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Ratt Boy

Oct 13, 2001


The Fall colors were great that weekend.

This is probably a minimal level for this silliness. Paul's pretty much online.
His line was good...but he got backendered. Lucky for him, he drifted a foot or two into the current. A couple feet back, and... schlurrrrp...you get sucked back under the curtain, against the rocks, into the cave-- unfurl them throw ropes!
This looks like a great boof, but it's a rocky way to go. The real boofin line is river left of where the boater you see is at. (The normal Funnel line, a pleasant Class IV-, is in all that white stuff to the river right of the paddler.)

Funnel is a fun rapid. John Kobak says 'Anyone who runs the Boof at Funnel, has Boof for Brains.'
That's Dave Duke in the yellow helmet, taking a breather after holding their lifeline for several precious minutes. See Brent's boat over there in the eddy? I bet next time he won't commit to a blind drop until he knows it's clear!

Thanks to the three raft guides who hustled along the riverbank to help out.

This link provided to honor the first winners of the Keel-haulers 'N Sync Award!

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John Alden

May 15, 2001


It was a great line until he got worked in the u-hole above and swam. His foot was wedged against a ledge of rock which is all that kept him from going over. He was in this position until I climbed down from where I was, waded out to him on a rope, and pulled him back to shore. For the record, I had already walked the rapid.

Brad Roberts
Brad Roberts

Oct 5, 1999


Second run we tried to have three of us huck it at once. Matt got a little chundered.

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Ratt Boy

Oct 18, 1997


The far river-left line (upper left in the picture) has a bad hole and a pothole. John's line, which I like, requires riding a ledge that's barely a boat-width, then dropping into the cauldron--hopefully with control--threading the needle between the two rocks. There's yet another line --a boof line-- but you can handle a little mystery, right?
This guy tried to run the river-left line, the one which has the pothole and which has been the site of a fatality. (No thanks!, for me!)

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Ratt Boy

Oct 17, 1997


See Rescue at Knife's Edge.
A nice, class-IV-ish rapid with a few holes. One of the easier ones on the Bottom Moose, but there's a small eddy to catch (river left) if you want to punch up the difficulty a tad.
At this level, there's an optional line down river right, too; there's also a right-to-left line, but you'd better get it right-- or else!
The initial drop of Double Drop is the tougher line, especially at higher levels. This is rather an easy level for this rapid.

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Ratt Boy

Jan 1, 1900


Check out all of Karl's Bottom Moose drawings by clicking here. High-rez versions of this and the other drawings are available there.
Check out all of Karl's Bottom Moose drawings by clicking here. High-rez versions of this and the other drawings are available there.
Check out all of Karl's Bottom Moose drawings by clicking here. High-rez versions of this and the other drawings are available there.
Check out all of Karl's Bottom Moose drawings by clicking here. High-rez versions of this and the other drawings are available there.
Put in at Fowlersville; the takeout (Crystal and Magilla) is at Shibley Rd. Head for Lyonsdale Rd. for Double Drop and Ager's Falls.

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Neil Cowley

Jan 1, 1900


This is called the Boof Sneak,
executed flawlessly and captured in
a succession of three shots. This is
the fist shot of the move. I took the
shots at the moose festival october,
2000.Take a look at my website
http://solecism.net/adventure for
more photos and stories.
This is called the Boof Sneak,
executed flawlessly and captured in
a succession of three shots. This is
the second shot of the move. I took
the shots at the moose festival
october, 2000.Take a look at my
website http://solecism.net/adventure
for more photos and stories.
This is called the Boof Sneak,
executed flawlessly and captured in
a succession of three shots. This is
the third shot of the move. I took the
shots at the moose festival october,
2000.Take a look at my website
http://solecism.net/adventure for
more photos and stories.

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Untitled

Jan 1, 1900


Kobak goes over Ager's Falls on the Bottom Moose

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Glen Piegari

Jan 1, 1900


Bottom left drop of Crytstal.
There's a story behind this one for sure.

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Brian Kish

Jan 1, 1900


John airs the perfect boof off the Knife's Edge

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Liane Underwood

Jan 1, 1900


Liane's first run of Fowlersville, first trip down
the Bottom Moose - nails the nice left hand line,
catches a flake and some air - a fantastic day of
paddling with the great folks from FLOW!

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Glen Piegari

Jan 1, 1900


Quicktime movie. Download free player at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

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Glen Piegari

Jan 1, 1900


On the 'classic' right-to-left line at Crystal...

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Andrew Cook

Jan 1, 1900


Bottom Moose on a idyllic spring release day.