Johnnies Creek

3. Canyon Rim Road to Canyon Mouth Park (Lower)(Lower)

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DifficultyIV(V)
Length1.8 mi
Avg Gradient288 fpm
GaugeLittle River Near Blue Pond Al
Flow Rate as of 52 minutes
460 cfsbelow recommended
Reach Info Last UpdatedDecember 29, 2016

River Description

Johnnies Creek is the classic class IV-IV+ creek in Alabama. The lower section from Canyon Rim Road (CR 275) to the Little River is the most frequently run creek in Little River Canyon. It runs more often then the other canyon creeks and seems to be everyone's favorite. It is solid class IV-IV+ creeking with one class V and plenty of undercuts and sieves spread throughout the run. It's continuous from start to finish, but its length and easy shuttle make multiple runs per day the norm. The rapids are difficult to scout, and having someone take you down the first time is a blessing. All rapids are runnable, although Gorilla Constrictor is often walked. Several injuries have occurred here.


River Features

Entrance Falls

Class: III+Distance: 0 mi
Waterfall / Large Drop
Entrance Falls

This 10' cascade can be scouted from the parking lot prior to putting on. Run at right of center, over the peaked wave, down the slide, and off the kicker for a sweet boof.

Two Out Of Three

Class: IVDistance: 0.05 mi
Hazard
Two Out Of Three

Directly after Entrance Falls comes a rapid that derives its name from the pinning potential that exists in the left line. At low to medium flows most folks run the far right slot down under the cliff then rejoining the main current below. At higher flows (over +2') the pinning potential of the left line is minimized.

Boogie Right

Class: III+Distance: 0.1 mi (approx.)
Rapid
Boogie Right

After a couple of easy boulder rapids comes Boogie Right. From the pool above most people run a little to the left of the big boulder off a 4-foot slide (w/ a stickly hole at high water) and then ferry all the way to the right and boogie down the remainder of the rapid.

Cave Left

Class: III+Distance: 0.15 mi
Rapid
Cave Left

After a few more non-descript rapids comes a 3' pour-over into a boiling cauldron. The hole can be sticky and the alcove in the rock on river left (the cave) can make retrieving the boats of swimmers very difficult. Run it slightly right of center with some speed and a good boof.

Left Bank

Class: IVDistance: 0.2 mi
Rapid
Left Bank

After another small pool comes a rapid that can only be run on the far left. The center and right of this rapid are all sieves and drops onto rock. Run a left banking turn (avoid being pushed right when landing) and then punch the pour-over as you emerge between two large boulders.

Right Slot

Class: III+Distance: 0.25 mi
Rapid
Right Slot

Run this one far right through the slot and boof the 4' diagonal ledge onto the Conveyor Belt.

The Conveyor Belt

Class: IIDistance: 0.3 mi
Rapid
The Conveyor Belt

The Conveyor Belt is a low angle slide that leads out of the previous drop and right into The Big Slide

The Big Slide

Class: IVDistance: 0.35 mi
Waterfall / Large Drop
The Big Slide

A huge (but hard to mess up) 25' cascade/slide that is usually run left or left of center. As it levels out keep heading left, finishing down to the biggest pool on the run. At really high water, lines right of center open up, but it is such a wide section of the creek that most mortals are on other creeks when Johnnies is running that high.

Gorilla Constrictor

Class: VDistance: 0.4 mi
Portage
Hazard
Waterfall / Large Drop
Gorilla Constrictor

A walk for a lot of folks, Gorilla Constrictor is a large, multi-tiered waterfall that has dished out its share of injuries. The line is on river right and if you're considering running it you'd better have the scouting skills to easily recognize it. At the bottom is a small pool before it feeds into several sieves. At normal levels most of the water is going into the sieves, but as the water rises it is possible to run left of the sieves to exit the pool.

The Little Slide

Class: IVDistance: 0.5 mi
Waterfall / Large Drop
The Little Slide

After Gorilla Constrictor paddlers will find themselves on a low angle slide that snakes its way downstream, ending in a 10 foot 45 degree angled slide. At levels over 0' the final hole can be quite sticky.

Cliff Right a.k.a. The Ditch

Class: IVDistance: 0.55 mi
Rapid
Cliff Right a.k.a. The Ditch

After a 4' boof on the right paddlers will try to work their way as far left as possible before dropping into the ditch and slamming against the cliff on the right. This rapid seems to flip a lot of paddlers against the cliff, but just ride it out and roll up in the pool.

Meltdown a.k.a. Ditch Bitch

Class: IVDistance: 0.6 mi (approx.)
Waterfall / Large Drop
Meltdown a.k.a. Ditch Bitch

Similar to the final move in the previous rapid, this one requires boaters to start against the cliff on the right then move left at the end to avoid a rock in the channel. At levels over 0' it is fairly easy to make the move and finish left. Running tight against the right cliff is also possible, but it ends in a surprisingly sticky hole and the washout against the right cliff is badly undercut. At low levels it is possible to catch the eddy on river left and wheel-chair over the rocks into the pool below.

Earthquake

Class: IVDistance: 0.7 mi
Rapid
Earthquake

Unlike many of the drops on Johnnies, this rapid actually has several possible lines (if the water is above 0'). The cleanest and most common is to start left with left angle and slide left around the pinning boulder to punch the final hole.

Boulder Choke

Class: IVDistance: 0.8 mi
Rapid
Boulder Choke

At moderate levels this drop can be run left or right, but either way you want to finish in the center with a fun 2' boof.  At high levels the whole rapid can be run right down the center.

Bastard

Class: IV+Distance: 0.85 mi
Hazard
Bastard

Enter this one right of center with right angle and stay right all the way through. The final drop feels similar to Seven Foot Falls on the Chattooga. Beware of the eddy on river right after the final drop, those driving hard right often find themselves in a hard to escape eddy that feeds back into the hole.

Last Drop

Class: III+Distance: 1 mi
Rapid
Last Drop

The normal line on the final rapid is a left to right move on river left. The normal line down the left has gathered wood often so be on the lookout after high water. The river right is an unstable jumble of rock that changes frequently and is very shallow at normal levels.

Confluence with the Little River

Distance: 1.02 mi
Rapid

Canyon Mouth Park

Distance: 1.4 mi
Take Out

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Jay Warner

Dec 17, 2012


The rapid here called 'Ditch Bitch' used to be very different and alot of fun. It was one of the funnest rapids to alot of boaters. A earthquake back in 02 or 03 i cant remember exactly when, but it changed the rapid at the exit. Travis Swinford from Rome, and I were the first down after the quake.We were very surprised when we found it changed. We actually filmed it with a old handycam. But this run does often change with heavy rain. Especially near the bottom. Funny thing is on here the rapid below the changed rapid, is named earthquake....

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Cliff Knight

Nov 24, 2010


This is the left line at 2/3 around 0 or 1 inches. Pin potential is very high (hints the name.)

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Cliff Knight

Nov 24, 2010


Easy slide int o a 5 foot boof. Super fun. Left line opens up at high water

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Dooley Tombras

Nov 15, 2006


Sweet drop on a classic Plateau run.

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Adam Goshorn

Dec 15, 2004


Dustin Bunch sneaks over the river left shelf at Ditch Bitch. The right line is a bad hole with huge undercut on the right.
John Eskew runs the final slide in the left line at Earthquake on Johnnies Creek.
Adam Petrillo runs the far river right sneak at Two out of Three on Johnnies Creek AL. As far as sneaks go... this one is pretty tricky and has gotten more then one boaters day off to a bad start.
This is how 'Cave Left' gets it's name. A swim from the hole can easily feed boat (and sometimes swimmers) in to the hard to escape rock alcove on river left. These folks spent an hour retreiving this boat.

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Adam Goshorn

Dec 15, 2004


This is the view up Boogie Right from the pool at the bottom. The angle of this photo makes the steepness and character of the rapid hard to judge.

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Adam Goshorn

Dec 12, 2004


Adam Petrillo keeping it smooth partway down The Big Slide on Johnnies Creek, AL.
Dustin Bunch finishing The Little Slide on Johnnies Creek, AL. This was our third day in a row on Johnnies.... what a great weekend!
Adam Goshorn drops into The Ditch on Johnnnies Creek, AL. This was our 3rd day in a row on Johnnies... what a great weekend!
John Eskew exiting left bank on Johnnies Creek, AL.
John Eskew exiting left bank on Johnnies Creek, AL.
Adam Goshorn boofs Right Slot on Johnnies Creek, AL. k This was our 3rd day in a row on Johnnies... what a great weekend!
Adam Petrillo dropping The Big Slide on Johnnies Creek, AL. One of the most fun rapids anywhere!

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Adam Goshorn

Dec 12, 2004


John Eskew speeds down The Big Slide on Johnnies Creek, AL. One of the fastest rides anywhere!

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Adam Goshorn

Dec 10, 2004


Dustin Bunch entering Cave Left on Johnnies Creek, AL. This was the first (and best) of 3 days in a row on Johnnies that weekend!

JW
Jay Warner

Jan 1, 2003


very low most people would not run at this level but we thought it was good to go.LRC was running around 900cfs
Dont peton
woops
nice
Jhonnys has awesome senery be sure to look around.It just adds to the enjoyment of a great run