Mary Neal, MD: From Hope To Trust, An NDE
“How you understand death directly determines how you experience life.”
-Mary Neal, MD
What happens when a pragmatic and analytical scientist experiences something beyond her scientific paradigm?
Mary Neal, M.D. is an accomplished orthopedic spine surgeon. She went to UCLA Medical School, did a residency at USC and later became the Director of Spine Surgery at USC.
In 1999 Mary was kayaking in Chile with her husband and friends. As an experienced kayaker, the rapids and 10-15 foot waterfalls on the Fuy River were well within her ability. But when one kayaker blocked the obvious route over a waterfall, Mary was forced to detour and take another more dangerous path. At the base of the waterfall, she and her kayak were pulled underwater and pinned under a powerful cascade of 8-10 feet of water.
She couldn’t move under the force of the river which bent her body in half and both legs backwards from the knee. Underwater for 30 minutes, Mary Neal, M.D., orthopedic spine surgeon and mother of four drowned.
Desperate rescue efforts were unable to get the the submerged kayak. But Mary’s body somehow released itself from the pinned boat and miraculously bumped into one of the downstream rescuers.
Mary was pulled to shore. Her body was purple and bloated after half an hour underwater without oxygen. She was most likely dead, or at best brain dead. A desperate attempt at CPR was started and against all odds, she revived.
The Fuy River is in a remote area of Chile, without cell service or roads. Mary had multiple breaks in both legs. The paddling team fashioned a stretcher from one of the kayaks, but the landscape was dense and there was no apparent way out.
Just then, several young Chilean men appeared out of the jungle. They carried her on her kayak through the thick jungle, where they found a dirt path leading to the nearest road, an unpaved road seldom used, where an ambulance somehow was waiting. This in a country where ambulances at the time were virtually nonexistent.
Her husband, who had passed on the day’s kayaking, miraculously connected with one of the woman in the kayak group who had fled the scene, upset over Mary’s apparent drowning. He got into his truck and arrived just as Mary was being loaded into the ambulance.
At the first aid staton in the village of Choshuenco, the Chilean men who had carried her to safety seemed to disappear. Her husband, also an orthopedic surgeon, applied long splints to her legs.They were both determined to get back to the States for medical care.
She final ly made it back to Jackson Hole where her internist doubted she would survive the night. In addition to the orthopedic injuries, she had advanced pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome, a reactive swelling of the lung tissue which interferes with the ability exchange oxygen.
Mary again beat all odds and survived. But and she faced months of healing and rehab during which she tried to make sense of the experience.
Near Death Experience
As a surgeon and analytical thinker:
“I tried to come up with a medical scientific explanation for what I’d experienced…
I was trying to disprove my own experiences.”
But her only conclusion could be that she had been sent back to her body from a place she called Heaven.
Dr. Neal has been featured in the Netflix series Surviving Death. She’s given numerous talks about her experiences including a TED Talk, Death Brings Context to Life:
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Netflix’s ‘Surviving Death’ explores afterlife and near-death experiences
By Social Links for Lauren Sarner
Published Jan. 5, 2021, 4:58 p.m. ET
Orthopedic surgeon Dr. Mary Neal “died” by drowning in a 1999 kayaking accident — and two decades later, her shocking experience surviving the incident still stuns the scientific community.
Neal, now 62, was pinned underwater beneath her overturned boat for 30 minutes before friends rescued her. There’s no explanation for how she was able to be resuscitated and avoid brain damage.
“As a physician and a scientist and as someone who’s very concrete-thinking and pragmatic, I, too, would have rolled my eyes if I had heard my own story,” Neal told The Post from her home in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, where she has a private practice.
Neal’s harrowing account — along with several others — is dramatized and explored in Netflix’s new docuseries “Surviving Death,” premiering Wednesday.
During the half-hour that she was submerged, Neal claimed she looked down on her body from a vantage point above it and felt herself travel to a place that she describes as heaven, where she encountered spirits of her departed ancestors and time seemed to slow down. There, the “spirits” informed her that her son would die, although they didn’t say when or how.
Neal was already a medical doctor at the time, and she described herself as “culturally Christian” in a casual way. But she emerged from her ordeal more spiritual and now refers to herself as a “child of God.” Still, she sees no conflict between her scientific training as a spine surgeon and her religious beliefs.
“I spent many months [after the event] trying to come up with some sort of medical or scientific explanation, because I was told that my oldest son would die. And so I was very motivated to find a reasonable explanation that could allow me to discount everything,” said the mother of three.
In 2009, her oldest son, Willie, was hit by a car and killed at age 20.
Neal’s story of looking down on her body and encountering some type of spiritual world is common among people who have near-death experiences, according to “Surviving Death.”
“People who have had the medical definition of death — flatlining — and are able to be brought back with the advent of resuscitative medicine have had these extraordinary experiences that are not unique,” said series director and producer Ricki Stern.
“When you think about people exploring the possibility of life after death or consciousness outside the body, we tend to think of these woo-woo shows like ‘Ghost Hunters’ or ‘Long Island Medium,’ ” Stern added. “So having this deep-dive of doctors who are studying this cast a different lens with which to look at this possibility.”
The series is based on a book of the same name by investigative journalist Leslie Kean.
“I feel pretty confident after writing my book to make the statement that I do not believe that consciousness is limited to the physical brain,” Kean told The Post. “So if that’s the case, could it survive the death of the physical brain? There’s a lot of suggestive evidence that it can. We can’t provide hardcore answers, but we can show what it’s like for people to go on this journey.”
In the years since her near-death experience, Neal has studied common theories for it such as the hypothesis that a lack of oxygen to the brain causes hallucinations that produce “afterlife” sensations. She says she does not find merit in them.
She compares studying the afterlife to studying love.
“If you look at love, for example, we can study it scientifically and see the consequences of love, but we can’t ‘prove’ love. It’s a different axis and a different concept,” she said. “Science and spirituality coexist easily, because they address different parts of our existence.”
Even so, whether or not they can be scientifically proven, Neal and Kean both said that stories of the afterlife — and the fact that many people have similar anecdotes — can’t be discounted.
“When you want to talk about scientific study and proving that there is life after death — I would put forth that it’s already been proven,” said Neal, referring to anecdotal evidence that spans time and cultures.
“I do think science will make strides in terms of trying to understand how it happens. But proving that there is continuation of consciousness, frankly, I think has already been done.”
There are no straight answers, and that’s part of the show’s appeal, according to Stern. “We didn’t
