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Slip in at the put in for a slow class 2+ start. Best parking on east side of Pleasant Hill Road about 100' south of bridge. Fisherman access with nice bench. Sort of a play spot upriver with small wave or side surfing hole depending on level. Note there is nothing but completely flat water upriver from here.
Wonderful quiet section to boat and see wildlife on the banks. At low levels where the gorge is still runnable this section gets too scrapy.
As you come up to Hell's Teeth (aka the Pillars) you will see these 10-15 foot tall piers on River Left. Scout on either side though i prefer right.
Main line is river right moving hard left to drop to the left of the 'tooth' in the center of the flow. Recently (summer 2019) something moved offering a tongue in at least low to medium flows as opposed to the previous drop into a diagonal wave coming off the tooth. Sneak route to right of right pillar runnable at all but low levels. From above this sneak looks like a 4' drop into a bad hole, but it's really a sloping drop into a small hole. Head straight over the furthest spot. There's also sneaks left but they've held wood in recent years.Portage on either side neither of which is that great. Can be scouted from the shuttle if leaves are off the trees by parking on 9w on the west side just north of 20.
Rapid below the teeth is best run to left of island as right is undercut and catches more wood plus left ends in a nice chute into the pool above 2nd /factory dam.Obviously any of these pillars could and have caught wood which can be quite awkward and below waterline. Without wood this is a pretty low consequence 4 with a nice pool below and a lot of water in the main line.
Something moved in pillars /dragon's tooth making it easier a tleast at low-mid levels. There was a tongue on the main drop where previously you'd just dropped into a diagonal wave. Final drop above pillars also got easier as there's a solid eddy mid drop.
Ran 4/27/14 with Ramapo at 285 cfs and Rondout at 462 cfs. Good level, 1 or 2 spots where we were scraping bottom. Lots of wood. Didn't see the I-Beams.
Ran the mighty moodna this afternoon - ramapo gage was roughly 1k. Fun level. Lots of wood on the lower section, esp downstream from the factory. Use caution and don't be afraid to scout...
Ran this on 4/21/07. When we ran it, the Ramapo at Mahwah (which is what you are viewing for a gauge on this site) was at 4.90 ft when we took out (a look at the graph shows it dropped mabe 0.5 from when we got on). The Rondout at Rosendale was at 10.94 ft (which also didnt change much) when we ran it. In otherwords, this river holds water very well and will have water in it when other things do not. In fact, it had not rained since that Monday, we ran it on a Saturday. At said level, instead of doing that ferry everyone talks about, we simply ran the meat of things above the abutments, going from center angled right. Just before passing the between the two abutments on the far right, reangled the our kayaks toward river left playing closer to the abutment on the left than the one all the way river right, boofing a log that was well under and easily going over rocks and whitewater. No hole on this side to worry about. I was worried of getting pushed to far right (toward the furthest right abutment), but this was not an issue for me. Although I can paddle CL4 rivers, I do not consider myself a CL4 paddler yet and on such rivers I'm pushing the envelope. However, I found this move easy and fun but wouldnt want blow this line or roll either. I also wonder what may be lurking underwater since I noticed a lot of made-made stuff near the riverbank (update: viewed this at below runable levels and there dose NOT appear to be any manmade metal junk in the river here. However, be heads up for wood. It's ofted wood gets caught up due to the pilons). Also unfortunitly, my friend said when he ran it the last time at a lower level, the above option we took was not doable that day due to a lack of water and had to do that ferry and cut near the dreaded hole. (I might have opted to portage had I been there that day). It looks to me this would be real serious at much higher water as well.
This river is about 65 miles from The Triborough Bridge, NYC. You can take 87 north to exit 16 then take route 32 going north (I belileve it's a right turn, not sure). You will soon see the river on your right. See above for directions to take out. FYI it's about 11 miles from I-87 to 'five corners'. I found the CL2 section fun as well. I wouldn't put-in below it and miss out on it.
8 months ago
by tom Hart
10 years ago
by James Dougherty
11 years ago
by Matt Muir
There are no gages; it's a natural flow river.
The Ramapo at Mahwah NJ is a good virtual gauge for Moodna Cr. If the Ramapo is at 3.8' the Moodna is probably just barely running. If the Ramapo hits 4' the Moodna should be good to go. Basically, the two rivers drain either side of the same set of hills.
The USGS gauge: Rondout Creek at Rosendale, NY is a good virtual gauge as their headwaters drain the same mountain and are about 5-10 miles apart.
"I am told that good min/max levels are 10' and 11.5' respectively.
Permits are not required for this reach.
Locate the town of Vails Gate, NY (AKA the intersection of Rt 32 and Rt 94)
Class 3(4) Putin:
From the intersection of Rt 32/Rt 94 travel south on Rt 32.
Class 2 Putin:
Travel South on Rt 32 about 4 miles and make a hard dog leg Right on Juenger Rd. Travel 200 hundred yards to Rt 79. Make a right and park near the bridge where the moodna passes under Rt 79.
Dirt road just northwest of bridge.
Do not park at the historical marker site or risk a visit from the local police.
From the intersection of Rt 32/Rt 94 travel East on Rt 94. Make a Right on Old Forge Hill Rd/Rt 74. You will quickly pass over the Jaw's Rapid bridge (scout?). Continue to the traffic light and cross Rt 9w. Down the road a short distance there is a bar on your right with a large parking lot. We have taken out here. Ask permission to park 1st and park away from the bar, closer to the river.
Make sure you stop in after paddling and tip heavy and thank them. If you don't have two cars you can call a cab at 845-561-8330.
pleasant hill road parking
new windsor water dept
undercut retaining wall
on Moodna Creek @Woodbury Creek to Old Forge Hill Road
Jaws (under the bridge) on Moodna Creek @
Brandon and Carin
moodna 1st dam medium flow
Jeff at Hells teeth
Hell's Teeth Video
Entrance to "Jaws"
Second Dam with more water
Moodna Upper Putin
Moodna Quiet Water
Jaws Bridge Hazard
Moodna 2nd Dam
Chilly Run on Hell's Teeth
Metal pinning hazard under Iron Forge Bridge
Hazard ounder Old Forge Rd (74) bridge
Moodna With Water
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