Green

I meant to say it is a V shaped canyon section, the class of water is around 2-3 in this section.

4-12-2025 About 1-2 miles above the Paradise takeout the river left wall has collapsed. This landslide started about 100 feet up the canyon wall and a massive Doug Fir tree was in that wall. This massive tree has crossed the entire river and there is NO WAY OVER OR AROUND IT! The only way to get around the blockage is to eddy out in a micro eddy on river right, then clamber around the existing log jam, that you are going to be parked in, to get around the end of the massive tree blockage. The only other way out of the river would be to hike back upriver and find an exit trail somewhere. But this is a V canyon section that is mostly impossible to hike out of. We managed to climb over the old log jam, on river right, and pull our boats through the mud, brush and trees to get over the blockage. This is a bad one folks and if someone is not prepared for this it could end very badly. It is impossible to portage on river left as the landslide debris field is about 50 feet high with no way through or around. I have never seen anything this bad on the Upper Green before. While it is possible to portage on river right, it is super sketchy and very dangerous, we did so as we had no other options to get down river...

Mike D wrote:

Today, hidden at the bottom of the 1st drop below Paradise (the first left hand turn, with the large boulders at the bottom) we found a large tree wedged all the way across the very bottom of the drop's typical left side route. It spanned all of the boulders

The tree is not very visible until you start to commit to the final steep part of the drop, and if I hadn't had my alert level up because it was missing from where it was last Saturday, the scramble to river right would have been much more frantic.

We ran the far right, and right of the large boulder at the bottom. There is some long-standing wood in the right side pool.

If this doesn't move at higher water, it will be scary on the left.

Wood in the far left at ledge 1, probably not an issue, but be aware.

Wood here and there on the sides that was obvious and easy to avoid. All the main rapids in Upper Gorge were clean.

As of Oct 23, there were lots of wood on the right half of the river between the Paradise Ledge and the next rapid. You can see it from the eddy across the Paradise put-in. The flow is slow there, and it is easy to pass it on the left. Just don't swim on the Paradise Ledge

Upper Gorge Section - Wood hazard in the 'Cleaver' (right side of the island), you can still squeeze by it on the left, but the wood is not going anywhere soon and it's tight. Best to just stay left of the island to avoid the criss-crossed logs

Wood hazard in 'Coal Car' rapid is clear as of 10/29/17, the wood has moved below the rapid in the flats above 'Kay's Landing'.. you can get by it on the left.

Wood hazard in the lower gorge:

A couple rapids below Paradise Ledge in 'coal car' rapids there is a tree blocking the main channel. It spans from a large rock on the right to a large rock on the left.

At 1100-1200 cfs it is just below river level with many branches sticking up.

We were able to sneak it both on the left and right, both sneaks are tight and require making a move, but the left side was a bit more open. Approach with caution and scout! Less experienced boaters would be wise to wait until this wood washes out before running this section. If you're planning on running the lower gorge only, you can hike down to Kays Landing to avoid this hazard.

Copied from the WKC website: 'There is currently a small tree blocking the entire main channel at the bottom of coal bucket. avoid tree by catching the eddy on river left and proceeding through the far left channel and floating over the submerged coal bucket. It is a small tree that will probably move at the next high water flow. This could be a serious hazard to swimmers.'

There is wood spanning the river just upstream of the huge clay wall on the lower gorge. Ran it today at 739 cfs, could see the logs from a ways away, but no real eddies near the wood. Portaged easily on the left bank. Can't be avoided in boat- must get out and portage.

Caution: Paddle stuck in Door # 3, the river right chute at the Nozzle.

The paddle is stuck in the right-hand 'door' of the three 'doors' through the rapid. . The paddle became lodged in the river during the fatal drowning of rafter and Everett Councilman Drew Nielsen on May 12, 2012 (News Report). Because of the way that the paddle is stuck, the KC sheriff was not able to remove the paddle when they removed the raft. The paddle is sticking upstream and could be difficult to see at some water levels. Boaters are advised to use the 'center door' until the paddle is naturally dislodged or flows become low enough that it can safely be removed. For Updates see the KC boaters page @ http://www.kingcounty.gov/recreation/boating/rivers/green-river-hazard-nozzle-2012.aspx

There is a submerged stick in the right side of Pipeline that is visible under 1200 cfs. You can run over it in your boat with no problems, but this stick could be a hazard for swimmers.

There is a log over the top of the rock between Door #1 and Door #2 at Let's Make a Deal, and it extends down into Door #1. Kayaks can make it through Door #1, but larger boats should take one of the other two doors.